Gawker, the WaPo and the death of journalism

by Mathew on August 2, 2009 · Comments

In yet another exhibit in the ongoing debate about what constitutes fair use online, Washington Post reporter Ian Shapira writes about how Gawker Media “ripped off” a recent story he wrote. In addition to this pejorative (and arguably also inaccurate) description, Shapira also uses a considerable helping of hyperbole in referring to his tale as “The Death of Journalism, Gawker Edition.” He describes at some length how Gawker lifted a liberal number of quotes and other information from his story, which he says he spent hours acquiring through in-person interviews and so on.

So if the Gawker item is a “rip-off,” which most people would take to mean a wholesale plagiarisation of the original, then there must be no reference to the Post story as the source, and no links either, right? Wrong. Shapira notes that Gawker links to his story high up in its piece, but says that there is “no direct mention of the Post.” In other words, linking is somehow not good enough any more. So there’s no reference to the Post at all then? Er, not exactly. There is a link and reference at the bottom of the piece, in the same way that many blog posts use the “via” link. That doesn’t seem to be enough for Mr. Shapira, however.

If you want to look at the facts of this case in more detail, Zachary Seward at the Nieman Journalism Lab has done an excellent job of parsing the specifics, including the number of words in each piece, the number of “original” words, the estimated time it would take to produce each one, and — most importantly — the number of links and traffic to each, and how high each piece ranks in a Google search for the topic (key ingredients in what Jeff Jarvis and others call the “link economy,” a term that some argue is inaccurate, including Tim O’Brien of the NYT).

I think a couple of elements in this case are particularly interesting: One is that Shapira says at the beginning of his piece that when he first came across the Gawker post, he was happy — and even flattered — that the site had referred to his story and linked to it. He only got mad when his editor told him that he should be, saying the website “stole” his story and asking him why he wasn’t outraged. The more he thought about it, the madder he got. Why? Because he did all the work, he says, but apparently didn’t get enough credit (he should try working for a wire service, where that kind of thing is considered routine).

The other thing that’s interesting is that the Gawker item had not one but three links to the Post, and an explicit mention of the source. Shapira admits that these links drove traffic, but seems to be arguing that they just weren’t prominent enough, or not obvious enough, or something along those lines (some, including Alan Murray of the WSJ, argue this is Google’s fault). William Mougayar responded to me on Twitter that the credit given to the Post was “like a footnote” — and that got me thinking. We’re perfectly comfortable with long excerpts from other people’s work in other places when they are given just a footnote. Why is this case so different? It even includes traffic, which scholarly footnoting rarely does.

I’d be willing to agree that Gawker could have — and maybe even should have, in an ethical sense — mentioned Shapira and his story specifically. But there is no way in heck that a post with three links and an explicit reference to the source constitutes anything approaching a “rip-off” or the “death of journalism.” How about the death of hyperbole, and the rebirth of rational debate about the value of linking and traffic, and/or the ethics of sourcing online? That would be nice.

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  • It's not so much the death of journalism, but the death of expensive publishing business models. When you look at the figures that he includes, in order to make the same profit mark up as Gawker, the WaPo would need to make around $950 from that story alone. Do you think that's likely?

    And that if you're looking at the profit margin in absolute terms - to do it on percentages, it would be more like making $7,500+...
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    @mathewi I agree the headline on that piece was hyperbolic, compared to the more nuanced article. Perhaps an homage of sorts to Gawker?

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    @mathewi tried to send you DM or chat. Best way to get in touch offline?

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    @mathewi quibble: academic excerpts are often in the context a longer synthesis or direct argument against, not just a simple paraphrase.

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    @mathewi good post - nice to see you still posting bud - here's what I thought about that mess http://bit.ly/9zheN<br />
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  • Bet you anything the reporter did not write that headline and that the person who did is from an older generation. Just a hunch of mine. But you did say Shapira uses a considerable helping of hyperbole in referring to his tale as “The Death of Journalism, Gawker Edition."
  • via links in footers are b.s. imho
  • Yes, I agree that "via" links are not sufficient -- and I agree Gawker could have done better on the attribution front.
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    @StevenHodson: thanks Steven

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    @harrisj: a key word in your description is "often" :-) still, point taken.

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    @palafo @mathewi headline was likely written by a copy editor?

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    @harrisj @palafo: possible -- I know from personal experience that that kind of thing happens sometimes :-)

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  • Mathew,
    I'm with you on most of it, and have been watching the ping pong on that story (or Ying Yang). "Death of Journalism" was a slight exaggeration.

    The irony is that Gawker's coverage gave him a boost in click-backs and notoriety, and that's the sad truth that native online media is trumping mainstream online media (in most cases). And they did that without adding any value in terms of analysis or viewpoint (unlike Techdirt which adds something).

    At the end of the day, it's about monetization. Shapira's last post received 100+ comments vs. ~ 70 for Gawker (am not sure about # of Views), so it's up to WaPo to monetize that traffic to make-up for their "loss".
  • Mathew,

    I don't mean to put words in the reporter's mouth but there is something strange about all this that no one talks about. Gawker essentially outsourced all the labor of the story to the Washington Post and at the same time gets credit for being lean and efficient and profitable. Apparently the paper is supposed to be grateful for the link.

    I'm not saying the solution is lawsuits or more complaining but it's just funny that people like to hold up these sites for their business models and then don't examine the subsidies they take advantage of.

    Ryan
  • Yes, I think that's a fair point Ryan. But the same could be said of any site -- or any publication for that matter -- that specializes in commentary, analysis, satire etc.
  • The key thing that Gawker provided him is access to an online audience that wouldn't have read the story on WaPo. On the strength of that segment, it boosted the whole story's readership.
    If this was an AP originating story, Gawker would have had to pay AP to re-publish it (even in abreviated form)- hence that's why the editor is upset about this.
    A case could be made that Gawker should pay something to reprint a story that originated elsewhere. Links back are not a form of payback (although they could be monetized).
    On the other hand, how different is this from Gawker re-publishing a story from Techcrunch for e.g.?
  • DrPangloss
    Good note. A small point, Shapria got 2 stories, so to speak, for the price of one. Also it seems that wisdom doesn't in the new media era necessarily come with age. Assuming of course that Shapira's editor is older than he is.
  • Shapira has now over 200 comments on his post, and he made it on Techmeme. Perhaps @ianshapria should have another talk with his editor!
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    @drbrake: I'm guessing, but I'll bet most of the people who thought that would never have seen the WaPo story in the first place

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  • may I point out it's summer, readership usually is down and henceforth "the death of journalism" articles have become the way for media companies to concern troll their way into linkbaiting if not linkwhoring their way out of low CPMs?

    want more proof? LIFE.com's kissing Digg's proverbial pingback
    http://twitter.com/LIFE/status/3107477824

    WTF?!?!

    so ... yeah ... nothing to see here. this has happened every single year since at least 2003 when i first heard of the "death of journalism" meme.

    expect it to happen again in February (when ad buys for the year will once again not happen like in the golden years) and next year's summer.

    meh.
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  • MaryAlan
    This is a really interesting debate. I've gone through and read the original Post article, and I read The Gawker blog post in question. In my opinion, The Gawker did nothing wrong by quoting the Post article extensively. The most obvious point which proves The Gawker article was not plagiarised -- The author used large quotation marks to distinguish unoriginal content from original content!
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