Nick Carr: I hate the Internet, Vol. 7

by Mathew on June 10, 2008 · Comments

I’d like to add my voice to the chorus of critical responses to Nick Carr’s piece in The Atlantic that asks the question Is Google Making Us Stupid. Blaise Alleyne, a member of Techdirt’s Insight Community, has already taken a crack at why the piece is so irritating, but I’d like to add my two cents. Blaise is quite right to note that one of the irritating things is that Nick blames Google for the pursuit of “skimming” information quickly, as though this is something that was invented by Larry and Sergey, or something that only became popular because of the Internet.

But why? Skimming information has probably been around for centuries; I’m willing to bet that plenty of monks skimmed through their religious texts too, and Egyptians through the papyrus for that matter. The study that Nick mentions also looked at how university students behaved while using a couple of research databases. So let me get this straight — students skim things when they’re researching topics? Wow. That’s a real bombshell there. And the news that people skim information on the Internet doesn’t seem all that earth-shattering either; after all, there’s about a billion times as much info out there (broadly speaking) as there was a decade ago. Of course people are skimming.

I’m not even going to go into the stuff about people “losing the ability” to read longer articles or books, which is ridiculous. I may not have time to read books, but I certainly haven’t lost the ability — and I’ve probably read more longer articles over the past few years than I did in the years before that, many of them online (including Nick’s). In a lot of ways, the article didn’t just make me irritated, it made me sad. Nick is a clearly a smart guy. But for whatever reason, he would rather use his skills to try and defend silly arguments that appear to be contrary just for the sake of being contrary. He’s like a troll that writes really well.

Update:

For what it’s worth, Jon Udell seems to agree with Nick that his brain is being rewired somehow, and wonders whether that is a good thing, and I have had conversations with friends who say they share Carr’s concerns, and have found themselves wondering if their attention span is getting shorter. I think the best approach is something like cross-training: some of this, and then some of that. Too much of any one thing, whether skimming or in-depth reading, is probably bad.

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  • I will give Nick one point - Google shows you where in the text your search is, in 3-4 lines. You may lose important context if you only see those lines without the preceding text, which you'd still get from skimming.

    But I think he's wrong for a different reason. On a geological timetable, our species stopped relying on biological evolution as a way of responding to change relatively recently. Instead, we evolve memes and learning, since this can keep up with how fast we change our own environment.

    Who's to say that short-term, information-skimming, seven-chats-going-at-once behaviors aren't just another step in that evolution? I suspect that as a species we learn whatever's useful; my grandmother knew the length of the ten longest rivers in the world. I can find the length of the ten thousand. Does that make me better than her? No, just better adapted for the modern world.

    So maybe Google is making us collectively smarter.

    Similarly, twitch-reflex, information-skimming humans may be just what our global, information-saturated future needs. I don't think Google's making us dumber. Just helping us adapt faster.
  • VincentClement
    Google neither makes us dumb or smart. Google simply presents us with information. It is up to the individual how they use that information.

    I remember going to the library and looking up a book or two via the computer. I would then go over to that section and look for other books on my topic. I would skim those books to determine which would help me. Google makes that a million times faster.
  • gregory
    that is right vncent, and since the internet provides no context at all we have started to substitute more information for understanding information ......

    hence, the news is polls about what people think is the news ..... a sign of sickness in both media and consumers of media ..... think the internet has had any influence there>
  • I agree, Vincent -- I don't think Google is really doing anything that
    different. It's just presenting us with more information, and doing
    it faster. And as Alistair suggests, it's up to us to adapt to that.
  • He happens to be correct about changes to the way Gen Y and under consumer information. While certainly i don't believe this is google's fault per say, digital has had (and it would make that it does) a huge impact on many things this being one of them. The way they communicate is different as well, video, photos, text, experiential.

    The real issue for me is the quick to judgment that this is all a bad thing. To assume this is making us stupid (or frankly stupider than we already are) is quite the hypothesis based on nothing.

    I'm sure when we went from hunching over like apes to standing up right, had Nick Carr been around, he might have been concerned about this too. Only time will tell if this in fact makes us more stupid or alternatively (what i believe in the longer term), far more innovative, creative, and better critical thinkers.
  • sorry it's early haven't had coffee - i meant consume (not consumer) and it would make 'sense' that it does (word missing) :)
  • Geekwad
    "But for whatever reason, he would rather use his skills to try and defend silly arguments that appear to be contrary just for the sake of being contrary. He’s like a troll that writes really well."

    Could not the same be said of almost every newspaper editorial, ever? You get a deadline and six inches of empty space to fill. But yeah, he does seem to spend a lot of effort on it.
  • That's a fair point, Geekwad -- newspaper editorials are often like
    that (and I say that as someone who used to write them). Perhaps Nick
    missed his calling :-)
  • Geekwad
    I enjoyed reading them. I would often be shocked, SHOCKED to find actual understanding and maybe even insight in tech coverage, when most your peers might as well have been opining on the weather a year from now. One of your colleagues in particular never failed to wind me up. Professional trolls!! (Err, no offense once again...)
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