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Maclean’s goes trolling for controversy

I’ve been talking with friends about Steve Maich’s recent cover piece in Maclean’s — entitled “The Internet Sucks” — but haven’t posted anything about it because I wanted to wait until I could actually read the article (I sure wasn’t going to go out and actually buy a copy of the magazine). It went up online recently and I read the whole thing, and also read the back-and-forth between Mark Evans and Steve — a former colleague of Mark’s at the National Post — on Mark’s blog, and it got me seeing red all over again.

Now Mike Masnick at Techdirt has weighed in on the topic, having been alerted to the Maclean’s article by a critic who shall remain nameless. My favourite part of Mike’s response is the Henry Ford analogy — Henry said cars would change the world for the better, but now we have pollution and traffic jams, therefore cars suck. As Mike put it, “a bunch of smoke and mirrors.”

I took my own crack at answering Steve in the comments section of Mark’s blog. Here’s the text of what I posted there:

Nice try, Steve — but it’s a bit of a cop-out to say that it isn’t your job to be “balanced,” and that you argued a single side of the case solely because you wanted to stimulate discussion. That’s an easy way of trying to avoid virtually any criticism of your faulty logic and/or assertions. In fact, it’s the type of thing that blogging “trolls” do, such as your friend Andrew Keen, or Nick “The Prophet of Doom” Carr.

Like most trolls, the whole thesis of your article is based on a straw man — the idea that the creators of the Internet said it would bring about some kind of enlightened utopia. John Perry Barlow and Wired magazine might have said that in the mid-1990s, but they said a lot of stupid things back then. And throwing the fibre-optic bubble in there is pure red herring-ism; that had nothing to do with the Internet, and everything to do with Wall Street and greed — also not invented by the Internet.

I could go through your article point by point, but let’s look at the main conclusions you stated here:

  • Crime is rampant: More rampant than society as a whole? Unlikely. You’re going to need a lot more evidence than some file-swapping and scary quotes about hackers and email scams. Yes, there is child porn — also not invented by the Internet.
  • Destruction of intellectual property rights is epidemic: What does epidemic mean? And what you call destruction, others (including many artists themselves, the actual creators of that content) see as an evolution, or at least a re-balancing of rights.
  • Elevation of political discourse isn’t happening: Why should the Internet be held to blame for something that isn’t happening in the rest of the “real” world either? There’s that straw man again. He sure comes in handy.
  • The economic model is largely unproven: I guess the “largely” part leaves out Google and its $145-billion market cap, does it? Because that pretty much makes up for all the value destroyed by Wall Street during the fibre-optic bubble. Not to mention Yahoo and eBay and Amazon, etc.
  • Happy trolling, Steve. You’d make a good blogger..

Update:

It’s worth checking out the Metafilter thread on the Maclean’s story too (warning: some graphic language), including a comment that made me laugh out loud: After someone says that the magazine achieved what it wanted to because people are talking about the article, GuyZero says “I notice roadkill too. I wouldn’t call getting run over by a truck a ‘gopher marketing strategy’”.

Rick at Valleywag gets off a good one too, with his post on Maclean’s. In the end, he says, the Internet is “a series of rubes.” And John Koetsier at SparkPlug9 has a good rebuttal of Steve’s piece here.

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14 comments for “Maclean’s goes trolling for controversy”

  1. Thank heavens for nameless critics.

    Posted by Rob Hyndman | October 27, 2006, 4:11 pm
  2. [...] Teh Internet Sucks? About as much as TV, Movies, Gaming, the Telephone, the Automobile … October 27th, 2006 at 4:47 pm by Tony Macleans, the bastion of Canadian journalism has published an opinion piece about how The Internet Sucks. Some fairly educated minds are debating it in various places. I anticipate the debate to reach some volume before it dies down; much like posting an article about how Digg sucks and seeing it catapulting to the front page on Digg — I expect an article on how the Internet sucks to soon hit the front page … well, of “the Internet”, I guess.I don’t expect many upcoming articles or opinions to be “for” the piece because the argument is fairly high in “garbage” quotient. [...]

    Posted by Deep Jive Interests » Teh Internet Sucks? About as much as TV, Movies, Gaming, the Telephone, the Automobile … | October 27, 2006, 5:21 pm
  3. Maclean’s goes trolling for controversy via Mathew Ingram: mathewingram.com/work October 27th, 2006 at 18:55

    Posted by Canadian Blogs | October 27, 2006, 7:48 pm
  4. [...] Mathew Ingram function tgb_closewindow () { window.location.href = “http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/10/27/macleans-goes-trolling-for-controversy/”; } [...]

    Posted by Mathew Ingram | October 27, 2006, 8:41 pm
  5. Somewhere in my basement I have a box of old books filled with famous quotations. I used to love going through them on rainy weekends before the kids came along.

    Fortunately, I now have the Internet, and bloggers like you to pick this stuff out for me.

    “I wouldn’t call getting run over by a truck a ‘gopher marketing strategy’”.

    LOL to the point of tears.

    I honestly hope someone is keeping these things somewhere for when the Internet blows up and we go back to paper.

    Posted by Dominic Jones | October 27, 2006, 9:55 pm
  6. Yeah, I liked that one a lot. So much I wish I had said it :-)

    Posted by Mathew Ingram | October 27, 2006, 9:57 pm
  7. Actually Nick is on vacation at Valleywag this week, I was sitting in for him.

    Posted by rick! | October 27, 2006, 10:44 pm
  8. Oops. Sorry about that, Rick :-) That \”series of rubes\” line was priceless.

    Posted by Mathew Ingram | October 27, 2006, 10:48 pm
  9. [...] Matthew Ingram: Maclean’s goes trolling for controversy [...]

    Posted by The internet doesn’t suck as hard as Steve Maich at Sparkplug 9 >> bizhack | October 28, 2006, 4:02 am
  10. HI Mathew, responded in a post today. I still think we can use this to move the debate on instead of each side standing off and saying you’re wrong. Or is it in the nature of blogging that we just stay in the flow.

    Posted by haydn | October 28, 2006, 6:46 am
  11. [...] Mathew Ingram and Mark Evans have kept alive a debate that I seem to remember first started kicking off, in a previous incarnation, a couple of weeks back. It got a workout too at Techdirt. The gist of the debate is that an article published in the Canadian mag Macleans, which concluded that the Internet was full of fatal flaws for humanity, was actually not an attempt to put forward a real argument. It was trolling for visitors. [...]

    Posted by What Will You See Next? » Blog Archive » That Internet Sucks Argument | October 28, 2006, 8:50 am
  12. I responded on your site too, Haydn. I think you’ve got it right when you talk about flow. The blogosphere is great for getting debates started and keeping them going — progress and closure is typically a little harder to come by :-)

    Posted by Mathew Ingram | October 28, 2006, 4:16 pm
  13. Maich’s article saying the internet sucks; the contention that it was merely a clever, and cynical, ploy to court controversy. (If you want to see how the article managed to stir things up in the blogosphere, you could start with Globe columnist Matthew Ingram’s blog

    Posted by Canadian Magazines | October 29, 2006, 5:49 pm
  14. Other people discussing this post: Valleywag: The Internet Sucks Media Angler: Heretics at the Modem Mark Evans: Does the Internet Suck? Evans vs. Maich TechDirt: The Internet May Suck, But So Does This Article Matthew Ingram: Maclean’s goes trolling for controversy Deep Jive Interests: The Internet Sucks? About as much as TV, Movies, Gaming, the Telephone, the Automobile … and last, but not least, the Techmeme discussion Tags: steve maich, macleans, internet

    Posted by Sparkplug 9 >> bizhack | October 31, 2006, 11:52 pm

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