One truce aside, the IM war continues

by Mathew on July 13, 2006 · Comments

If you only read certain blogs or publications today — or press releases from both Microsoft and Yahoo — you would think that something truly revolutionary had been announced, with the news that Microsoft’s MSN Messenger (or Windows Live Messenger or whatever we’re supposed to call it nowadays) will inter-operate with Yahoo’s instant messaging client as part of a limited beta. Thankfully, however, there are people with memories that last longer than a week or two, like Elinor Mills of CNet and Alec Saunders of Iotum and Stowe Boyd of, well… Stowe Boyd.

Is the fact that Yahoo and Microsoft’s IM clients will work together something to celebrate? Yes. The walled gardens of instant messaging have existed for too long, just like early phone systems that would only handle calls to users of the same network. But this deal was announced about nine months ago, as CNet points out, so it’s hard to get excited about it all over again. In addition, the two companies go out of their way not to mention the fact that their systems still won’t work with IM applications from anyone else — including, of course, AOL’s AIM and Google’s GTalk.

Those two companies are working on their own federation deal as part of their $1-billion partnership, and GTalk already works with open-source instant messaging apps such as the Jabber client. Why don’t Yahoo and Microsoft support open-source too? Because they likely see that as helping Google, or diluting whatever strengths they feel they have as a result of keeping users in a kind of IM roach motel.

Obviously, companies can do whatever they want with their applications, and co-operate with whomever they wish to co-operate with. Unlike my friend Stowe, I would hesitate to recommend that the government force them to open up their networks. But just because they choose to do that doesn’t mean as users that we have to congratulate them for it. I will continue to use GTalk or Trillian or Meebo or any other app that lets me inter-operate with everyone.

Update:

According to the latest numbers, Google Talk is at the very bottom of the list as far as IM clients go. Does that surprise anyone? Not me. It’s only been around for less than a year, for one thing, and it doesn’t inter-operate with MSN or Yahoo (because they don’t want to, not because Google doesn’t want to). I still like the way it integrates with Gmail, and I like the fact that it supports the Jabber standard, despite what my comment-writing fan says below. Open standards are better — period.

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  • Stu
    Dude, get over yourself, nobody ever demanded that you congratulate them for it. But for people who actually use the services -- give or take a couple hundred million people -- it's a very nice thing, especially since it was implemented better than I was expecting. I'm not fond of the limited experience you get with the Trilians and Meebos (or that hardly anybody uses Gtalk, which most definitely doesn't let me interoperate with everyone. Jabber? Please.), not to mention having to create an account for every system I want to interoperate with. Now I only need a single account total to use both MSN/Live and Yahoo networks.

    And the reason why some people are actually excited about it today, even though it was announced months ago is...wait for it...BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING NOW. I realize this might come as a shocker to those who care about Gdrive rumors, Rocketbimbo gossip, and MySpace vs. Yahoo more than they care about actually *getting things done* with any of the products endlessly talked about in the Web 2.0 Hyposphere.

    Seriously, I can see you saying "Wake me up when it happens" when they originally announced it. But now that people are finally getting a chance to make use of it, it seems pretty silly for you to not understand why people would be making a big deal about it.
  • Mathew Ingram
    Whoa, Stu -- why all the negative vibes, dude? You're totally bumming me out, man. Seriously though, not sure why you decided to unload on me, but whatever. If you're happy with MSN and Yahoo interoperating, good for you -- knock yourself out. For me, Trillian and Meebo have let me talk to friends on MSN and Yahoo for years now, so I guess that's why I'm so unexcited.

    As for the "limited experience," they offer compared with MSN, I guess all those ads and offers and IM chat icons and "nudges" and eye-candy crap is tough to live without., eh? Oh, and thanks for at least skimming a few recent posts to give yourself a bit more ammo to diss me with. Rock on, dude.
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