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		<description><![CDATA[Update: Robert X. Cringely posted something on Quechup that was very similar to what others have written, but drew a response from a VP at the company, who took issue with some of Cringely&#8217;s comments, and the blogger/columnist later posted an update addressing some of these points. The company is apparently working on some changes [...]]]></description>
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<p><b>Update:</b></p>
<p>Robert X. Cringely <a href="http://weblog.infoworld.com/robertxcringely/archives/2007/09/quechupcom_onli.html">posted something</a> on Quechup that was very similar to what others have written, but drew a response from a VP at the company, who took issue with some of Cringely&#8217;s comments, and the blogger/columnist later posted <a href="http://weblog.infoworld.com/robertxcringely/archives/2007/09/pouring_quechup.html">an update</a> addressing some of these points. The company is apparently working on some changes to its policies.</p>
<p><b>Original post:</b></p>
<p>Several different strands of Web 2.0 have come together over the past week or so that I find interesting, in part because of the backlash that seems to be bubbling around the idea of social networks. That backlash has <a href="http://www.techmeme.com/070907/p61#a070907p61">flared up</a> in several places recently &#8212; specifically, in the comments about two Web 2.0 services: <a href="http://Quechup.com" title="http://Quechup.com" target="_blank">Quechup.com</a> and <a href="http://Rapleaf.com" title="http://Rapleaf.com" target="_blank">Rapleaf.com</a>. The combination of those and other similar controversies has led some to propose a Bill of Rights for social networking. But will that really solve anything?</p>
<p><img class="left" src='http://www.mathewingram.com/work/wp-content/uploads/spam.jpg' alt='spam.jpg' />Quechup is the easiest of the two situations to describe. While I haven&#8217;t been affected by it directly because I avoided signing up, the site &#8212; which is owned by an online dating venture called <a href="http://iDate.com" title="http://iDate.com" target="_blank">iDate.com</a> &#8212; <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2007/09/08/warning-do-not-load-quechup/">appears</a> to spam people without permission, which is a no-no by just about anyone&#8217;s <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/quechup_social_network_accused_of_spamming.php">definition</a>. When you sign up, it <a href="http://www.wisebread.com/extra-spam-hold-the-quechup">apparently asks</a> for your email and then sucks your address book in and spams everyone you know with an invitation to what it calls &#8220;a social networking platform that is sweeping the globe.&#8221;</p>
<p>Those with long memories (in Web-time at least) will recall that this is exactly the kind of thing that got <a href="http://Plaxo.com" title="http://Plaxo.com" target="_blank">Plaxo.com</a> in trouble. It spammed people&#8217;s contact lists as well, and a number of people refused to use it as a result. Mike Arrington of TechCrunch in particular swore that he would never use it because of its behaviour, and Plaxo <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/27/plaxoapologizes/">later apologized</a>.</p>
<p>Despite several days worth of blogstorm-style posts &#8212; such as Ken Camp&#8217;s &#8220;Rat bastard disease of the Internet&#8221; <a href="http://ipadventures.com/2007/09/06/quechup-rat-bastard-disease-of-the-internet/">post</a> &#8212; the folks at Quechup don&#8217;t seem to care that they have gotten a reputation as the biggest spammers on the Web, to the point where critical blog posts now make up virtually all of the results on the first page of a Google search for the company. Perhaps the iDate service is so lucrative that they couldn&#8217;t care less what people think.</p>
<p><img class="left" src='http://www.mathewingram.com/work/wp-content/uploads/rapleaf_logo_175x46.png' alt='rapleaf_logo_175Ã—46.png' />What happened with <a href="http://Rapleaf.com" title="http://Rapleaf.com" target="_blank">Rapleaf.com</a> is a slightly different story: the company is one of a number of social-network aggregators such as <a href="http://Spock.com" title="http://Spock.com" target="_blank">Spock.com</a>, which try to help users find and bring together in one place all of the various profiles and information about them that exists on various sites &#8212; and, not coincidentally, tries to sell some of the information about those aggregated profiles to advertisers, through a separate service called <a href="http://Trustfuse.com" title="http://Trustfuse.com" target="_blank">Trustfuse.com</a>.</p>
<p>Rapleaf also has a service called <a href="http://Upscoop.com" title="http://Upscoop.com" target="_blank">Upscoop.com</a>, which allows you to upload a contact list and then see who has profiles on which services or networks. In a nutshell, what Rapleaf did was to email all of those contacts to tell them that you were searching for info about them &#8212; something it thought was a valuable service, but now <a href="http://blog.rapleaf.com/2007/09/06/start-ups-privacy-and-being-wrong/">admits was wrong</a> and probably also stupid. It says it will no longer do that in such a spammy kind of way.</p>
<p>The company also mentions in passing the idea of a social networking Bill of Rights, which is something that has also been bubbling up for awhile (as Karoli notes <a href="http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/09/05/bill-of-rights-for-the-social-web/">here</a>). In its latest incarnation, Mike Arrington and Robert Scoble have joined forces with Marc Canter and Joe Smarr of &#8212; yes, you guessed it, Plaxo &#8212; to lay the groundwork for a statement of rights that social-networking users would like to see respected. You can read the whole list <a href="http://opensocialweb.org/">here</a>, but it includes things such as control over your personal info and what is done with it, etc.</p>
<p><img class="left" src='http://www.mathewingram.com/work/wp-content/uploads/bill_of_rights.jpg' alt='bill_of_rights.jpg' />A valuable statement of principles, perhaps. But will it accomplish anything? Companies like Quechup that don&#8217;t care about their users will continue to engage in all kinds of nefarious behaviour, and a Bill of Rights isn&#8217;t going to stop them. The only thing users can do is read the terms of service and privacy policy before clicking the &#8220;Submit&#8221; button (Prokofy Neva has some other concerns with a uniform bill of rights, which she outlines <a href="http://opensocialweb.org/2007/09/05/bill-of-rights/#comment-5">here</a>).</p>
<p>Meanwhile, companies like Rapleaf &#8212; which appears to care about its users and its reputation &#8212; will respond to the kind of outcry that has taken place without any need for a Bill of Rights (although getting your info removed is <a href="http://mattroberts.com/2007/09/05/please-take-down-my-information/">far from easy</a>). Don&#8217;t like what a company is doing with your data or your profile? Cancel your account and go somewhere else.</p>
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