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		<title>Newsvine takes the high road on Gather</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike Davidson, the CEO of Newsvine &#8212; a kind of news aggregator/blog hub &#8212; has a nice post up on his site reacting to some of the recent commentary about Gather.com, to which Newsvine has been compared by many (including me in this post) . Rather than take any delight in a competitor getting weak [...]]]></description>
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<p>Mike Davidson, the CEO of Newsvine &#8212; a kind of news aggregator/blog hub &#8212; has a nice post up <a href="http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people">on his site</a> reacting to some of the recent commentary about <a href="http://Gather.com" title="http://Gather.com" target="_blank">Gather.com</a>, to which Newsvine has been compared by many (including me <a href="http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/01/15/shall-we-gather-at-the-funding-river/">in this post</a>) . Rather than take any delight in a competitor getting weak early reviews &#8212; for the record, I think it still has potential &#8212; Mike makes a few good points in his post, entitled <em>&#8220;The Proof Is In The People.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Among other things, he says that being a media darling isn&#8217;t necessarily an indicator of future success, and that many great things were originally greeted with skepticism. Mike also <a href="http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people">points out that</a> &#8220;an entrepreneur who always thinks along the lines of everyone else will produce a product or service just like everyone elseÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s usually a bad thing.&#8221; And he is right. He also says that <a href="http://www.newsvine.com/_cms/info/companyinfo">the Newsvine team</a> is going to keep their heads down and &#8220;keep learning from our users and admitting we only know half of what we think we know. The moment you think you understand everything about the market youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re entering is the moment you exit it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Words of wisdom, Mike.  And for what it&#8217;s worth, I like <a href="http://www.newsvine.com">the service</a> a lot (I&#8217;m beta testing).  I haven&#8217;t been seeding as much as I probably should be, but I do like it &#8212; particularly the commenting. Not sure about the live chatting, but time will tell.</p>
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		<title>Shall we Gather at the (funding) river</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s always nice to see startups &#8212; particularly those in the social-media, Web 2.0-type landscape &#8212; get some funding, so I don&#8217;t want to dump on Gather.com, which has not only received $6-million in financing from Lotus founder Jim Manzi and VC group Allen &#038; Co., but is also the subject of a laudatory article [...]]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s always nice to see startups &#8212; particularly those in the social-media, Web 2.0-type landscape &#8212; get some funding, so I don&#8217;t want to dump on <a href="http://Gather.com" title="http://Gather.com" target="_blank">Gather.com</a>, which has not only received <a href="http://www.paidcontent.org/pc/arch/2006_01_14.shtml#053149">$6-million in financing</a> from Lotus founder Jim Manzi and VC group Allen &#038; Co., but is also the subject of <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/01/14/one_stop_site_for_blogs_offered/?page=2">a laudatory article</a> in the Boston Globe.</p>
<p>Still, I have to wonder what <a href="http://Gather.com" title="http://Gather.com" target="_blank">Gather.com</a> has that&#8217;s worth $6-million (or maybe I have an unrealistic view of how much $6-million is nowadays). I&#8217;ve checked the site out several times, and apart from a garish and cluttered design that I find hard on the eyes, I don&#8217;t see much to make it stand out from the crowd &#8212; and it is a crowd (Andrew Watson <a href="http://changingway.net/archives/407">also seems skeptical</a>, as does <a href="http://benbarren.blogspot.com/2006/01/6m-in-funding-to-be-flickr-of-blogging.html">Ben Barren</a> and <a href="http://www.newsome.org/2006/01/will-bloggers-gather-for-gather.shtml">Kent Newsome</a>). Not only are there old standbys like <a href="http://About.com" title="http://About.com" target="_blank">About.com</a> (owned by the New York Times group, which also owns the Boston Globe), which also happens to be garish and cluttered, but there are dozens of startups from <a href="http://Digg.com" title="http://Digg.com" target="_blank">Digg.com</a> and <a href="http://Reddit.com" title="http://Reddit.com" target="_blank">Reddit.com</a> to more elaborate ventures.</p>
<p>For example, there are sites like <a href="http://PersonalBee.com" title="http://PersonalBee.com" target="_blank">PersonalBee.com</a> and a news- and blog-oriented site called <a href="http://Newsvine.com" title="http://Newsvine.com" target="_blank">Newsvine.com</a> &#8212; both of which I am beta-testing as a contributor. When it comes to design and layout, Newsvine wins hands down, and I find the way articles are contributed and voted on, plus the live chatting, to be very interesting features. Whether either one will last I don&#8217;t know. There are also local news ventures such as <a href="http://Backfence.com" title="http://Backfence.com" target="_blank">Backfence.com</a> &#8212; which seems a bit like a vacant lot waiting for a party, in many ways &#8212; and others too numerous to mention, such as <a href="http://Squidoo.com" title="http://Squidoo.com" target="_blank">Squidoo.com</a>.</p>
<p>Will any of these startups find success, or will they all? It&#8217;s a bit of a crapshoot at the moment. Fun to watch, but nerve-wracking to work in, I imagine. Steve Rubel says there is <a href="http://www.micropersuasion.com/2006/01/gather_aims_to_.html">a Web 2.0 crash coming</a>.</p>
<p><b>Update:</b></p>
<p>Mike Arrington of TechChrunch notes that <a href="http://Inform.com" title="http://Inform.com" target="_blank">Inform.com</a> &#8212; which has been through <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/05/informcom-re-launches-with-major-feature-changes/">a bit of a remake</a> after some bad early reviews &#8212; is also pursuing this model. And Jason Calacanis of Weblogs Inc. (not surprisingly) <a href="http://www.calacanis.com/2006/01/15/boston-globe-finds-out-you-might-someday-be-able-to-make-money/">prefers a different approach</a>. My friend Paul Kedrosky says Gather is <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/002398.html">&#8220;AOL-lite-lite for the blogosphere&#8221;</a> and that it just might succeed because some people want that. I think Kareem <a href="http://www.reemer.com/archives/2006/01/16/lessons_from_gathercom/">has a good point about Gather</a> too in his recent post.</p>
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