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		<title>Who clicks on all those Web ads?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting post by danah boyd &#8212; a sociologist who has become known for focusing on social networks such as MySpace and how young people use (and abuse) them &#8212; about the billion-dollar question: Who is clicking on all those Web ads, and what does that say about Web advertising and about the online economy in [...]]]></description>
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<p>Interesting post by danah boyd &#8212; a sociologist who has become known for focusing on social networks such as MySpace and how young people use (and abuse) them &#8212; about the billion-dollar question: Who is <a href="http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/12/03/who_clicks_on_a.html">clicking on all those Web ads</a>, and what does that say about Web advertising and about the online economy in general? </p>
<p>I know I&#8217;ve never clicked on a Web ad of any kind, or at least not out of a genuine desire to buy something. So who does? <a href="http://blogs.mediapost.com/spin/?p=1085#">Research</a> suggests it&#8217;s primarily lower-income Web surfers, and predominantly women. And the same research suggests that 99 per cent of people don&#8217;t click on ads, and only about .2 per cent click a lot. </p>
<p>Are they carrying the entire Web on their shoulders, and if so what does that mean? Read <a href="http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/12/03/who_clicks_on_a.html">the whole thing</a>.</p>
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		<title>Facebook is IKEA, MySpace is Las Vegas</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
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<p>Danah Boyd, a sociologist and researcher in the U.S. who specializes in youth culture and online social networks such as Facebook and MySpace, has <a href="http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html">posted a draft version</a> of a new paper she is writing on what might loosely be referred to as &#8220;class divisions&#8221; between the two popular social networking sites. Although she says that the differences between the two audiences are not strictly class-based, there appears to be a clear difference between teens who gravitate to one versus the other.</p>
<p>For the most part, Boyd says, the younger users on MySpace are what she calls &#8220;subaltern&#8221; &#8212; a term meaning subordinate, or lower in station &#8212; in the sense that they are outcasts in some way or another, either because they are involved in a social sub-group of some kind (i.e., they are gay, or goth) or they are a member of a racial or cultural group that is non-mainstream (i.e., Hispanic, Asian, etc.). As she puts it:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The goodie two shoes, jocks, athletes, or other &#8220;good&#8221; kids are now going to Facebook. These kids tend to come from families who emphasize education and going to college&#8230; they are primarily white, but not exclusively.</p>
<p>MySpace is still home for Latino/Hispanic teens, immigrant teens, &#8220;burnouts,&#8221; &#8220;alternative kids,&#8221; &#8220;art fags,&#8221; punks, emos, goths, gangstas, queer kids, and other kids who didn&#8217;t play into the dominant high school popularity paradigm.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Boyd admits that some of these differences are likely a result of the ways in which Facebook and MySpace evolved. The latter started as a social network for music fans to share information about their favourite bands, whereas Facebook started as a social network that was restricted to university students and faculty &#8212; and therefore has had a collegiate type of appeal ever since.</p>
<p>The different approaches taken by MySpace and Facebook extend to design as well &#8212; MySpace is much more chaotic and colourful, while Facebook is more clean and austere &#8212; and therefore the ways that the two sites are perceived by their users is different too, Boyd says:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Teens who use Facebook see MySpace as &#8220;gaudy, immature, and &#8220;so middle school.&#8221; They prefer the &#8220;clean&#8221; look of Facebook, noting that it is more mature and that MySpace is &#8220;so lame.&#8221; What hegemonic teens call gaudy can also be labeled as &#8220;glitzy&#8221; or &#8220;bling&#8221; or &#8220;fly&#8221; (or what my generation would call &#8220;phat&#8221;) by subaltern teens.</p>
<p>That &#8220;clean&#8221; or &#8220;modern&#8221; look of Facebook is akin to West Elm or Pottery Barn or any poshy Scandinavian design house (that I admit I&#8217;m drawn to) while the more flashy look of MySpace resembles the Las Vegas imagery that attracts millions every year.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Boyd has a blog post with comments about the paper <a href="http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/06/24/viewing_america.html">here</a>, and some of the comments are well worth reading. </p>
<p><b>Update:</b></p>
<p>Nick Denton injects some of his patented Valleywag skepticism <a href="http://valleywag.com/tech/facebook-v-myspace/the-shaky-sociology-of-social-networks-272038.php">here</a>. And Joey &#8220;Accordion Guy&#8221; deVilla was at a recent presentation at the Harvard Berkman Center on Internet and Society that Danah gave about her research, and he has an extremely comprehensive <a href="http://globalnerdy.com/2007/06/25/notes-from-danah-boyds-myfriends-myspace/">set of notes</a> if you&#8217;re interested in more detail. And Danah has posted <a href="http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/06/25/woah_omg_reflec.html">her own thoughts</a> on the reaction her post has gotten.</p>
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		<title>Blogs &#8212; it&#8217;s all about the conversation</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/03/blogs-its-all-about-the-conversation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 03:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This may or may not be part of the &#8220;secret sauce&#8221; in Gabe&#8217;s memeorandum.com, but I think Stowe Boyd is onto something. In a post about what makes blogs work &#8212; i.e., what makes them vibrant and helps them grow, as opposed to stagnating or becoming echo chambers &#8212; he says that he thinks it [...]]]></description>
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<p>This may or may not be part of the &#8220;secret sauce&#8221; in Gabe&#8217;s <a href="http://memeorandum.com" title="http://memeorandum.com" target="_blank">memeorandum.com</a>, but I think <a href="http://www.stoweboyd.com/message/2006/02/the_social_scal.html">Stowe Boyd is onto something</a>. In a post about what makes blogs work &#8212; i.e., what makes them vibrant and helps them grow, as opposed to stagnating or becoming echo chambers &#8212; he says that he thinks it has something to do with the ratio of posts to comments and trackbacks. </p>
<p>Being a geek (and I meant that in a good way) Stowe comes up with a &#8220;conversational index&#8221; that quantifies that ratio, and figures if it is more than one &#8212; that is, if there are as many or more comments and trackbacks as there are posts &#8212; then the blog will flourish. Don Dodge has come to <a href="http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2006/02/the_conversatio.html">a similar conclusion</a>, and so has <a href="http://www.zoliblog.com/blog/_archives/2006/2/3/1743272.html">Zoli Erdos</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if the ratio needs to be one, or close to one, or whether you can even put a number on it, but I think this hits the nail on the head &#8212; what makes most blogs interesting isn&#8217;t so much the great things that the writer puts on there (as much as I like to hear the sound of my own voice), but what kind of response it gets, and how that develops, and who carries it on elsewhere on their own blog. And I agree that it would be nice if someone like <a href="http://technorati.com" title="http://technorati.com" target="_blank">technorati.com</a> or <a href="http://memeorandum.com" title="http://memeorandum.com" target="_blank">memeorandum.com</a> could track that kind of thing and make it part of what brings blogs to the top. </p>
<p>I like to see what people are talking about &#8212; not just what a blogger has to say, but what others have to say about what they say. That&#8217;s why I also <a href="http://www.micropersuasion.com/2005/12/2006_trends_par.html">agree with Steve Rubel</a> that it would be nice to have a way of tracking comments, other than by subscribing to a feed of comments, or <a href="http://www.micropersuasion.com/2005/12/using_delicious.html">bookmarking posts</a> you&#8217;ve commented on with <a href="http://del.icio.us" title="http://del.icio.us" target="_blank">del.icio.us</a> or some other tool.</p>
<p><b>Update:</b></p>
<p>Stowe Boyd has more on the &#8220;conversation&#8221; conversation, as it were, <a href="http://www.stoweboyd.com/message/2006/02/businessblogwir.html">here</a>.  And as far as tracking comments, no sooner did I mention it then <a href="http://CoComment.com" title="http://CoComment.com" target="_blank">CoComment.com</a> came out with that exact thing. I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s a coincidence though  :-)</p>
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