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		<title>The battle of the homepages continues</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 13:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was inevitable that someone in the ongoing battle of the Ajax homepages (okay, it&#8217;s no Alamo, but hey &#8212; we have to do the best we can on the new frontier) would eventually eat a bullet, and in this case it turned out to be the fittingly named Fold which, well&#8230; folded. That leaves [...]]]></description>
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<p>It was inevitable that someone in the ongoing battle of the Ajax homepages (okay, it&#8217;s no Alamo, but hey &#8212; we have to do the best we can on the new frontier) would eventually eat a bullet, and in this case it turned out to be the fittingly named Fold which, well&#8230; <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/03/foldcomfolds/">folded</a>. That leaves Netvibes, Protopages, Pageflakes, Zoozio and &#8212; oh yes &#8212; a couple of little players named Google (with its google/ig) and Microsoft (with <a href="http://live.com" title="http://live.com" target="_blank">live.com</a>). Both Netvibes and Pageflakes have recently gotten financing, so someone must see a future.</p>
<p>Richard MacManus of Read/WriteWeb sees a future too, and I&#8217;m not so sure that he&#8217;s wrong. In a <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_future_of_p.php">recent post</a>, he says that what now appear to be just cool homepages with some Ajaxy modules could become the portals of the Web 2.0 future, with all kinds of widgets and tools built in. In a sense, they could become a virtual desktop &#8212; the tool you use to gather all the bits and pieces of your online life together, all of them interacting and updating automatically.</p>
<p>I confess that I&#8217;m a big fan of <a href="http://Netvibes.com" title="http://Netvibes.com" target="_blank">Netvibes.com</a>, in part because it is fast &#8212; a lot faster than Google&#8217;s ig, as far as I can tell &#8212; and because it is flexible, with dozens of different modules (such as Flickr, <a href="http://del.icio.us" title="http://del.icio.us" target="_blank">del.icio.us</a> and Digg modules) and features including the ability to add new tabs, click once and mark all items in a feed read, and so on. Google&#8217;s effort, much like its other tools such as Google Reader, verges on the lame. It seems slow and clunky, you only get three columns (<a href="http://Netvibes.com" title="http://Netvibes.com" target="_blank">Netvibes.com</a> has four) and you can&#8217;t add new tabs. Admittedly, those kinds of things aren&#8217;t exactly a powerful barrier to entry.</p>
<p>I almost hate to admit it, but Microsoft&#8217;s entry in the portal sweepstakes has gotten better. When I first tried it, <a href="http://Live.com" title="http://Live.com" target="_blank">Live.com</a> totally blew. It was slow and buggy and useless &#8212; kind of like Windows 1.0. But now it has gotten a lot faster and sleeker-looking, and is the closest to having what I think is a competitive offering compared with Netvibes. I like Pageflakes too, but for some reason it seems cluttered. All are racing to add as many modules as they can, but so far Netvibes has the most useful ones, such as a window where you can track your <a href="http://Writely.com" title="http://Writely.com" target="_blank">Writely.com</a> documents, and a connection to <a href="http://Box.net" title="http://Box.net" target="_blank">Box.net</a> online storage.</p>
<p>Pageflakes has added a &#8220;share this page&#8221; feature so you can effectively publish your page, and Netvibes now lets you add modules to the Netvibes &#8220;ecosystem.&#8221; As for Google, one thing that it does have going for it &#8212; and I think this shouldn&#8217;t be underestimated &#8212; is a mobile version of its portal that is fast and slick. In fact, when it comes to mobile RSS readers, it is right up there with the best. I&#8217;ve tried several, including one called <a href="http://conveyor.com" title="http://conveyor.com" target="_blank">conveyor.com</a> for the BlackBerry, and they all leave something to be desired. This could be an important differentiator between the competitors going forward.</p>
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		<title>A chat with Michael Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/03/25/a-chat-with-michael-robertson/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
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<p>I know that all the fuss about Michael Robertson and <a href="http://ajaxWrite.com" title="http://ajaxWrite.com" target="_blank">ajaxWrite.com</a> was ages ago in blog time &#8211; days being the same as years in the blogosphere &#8211; but I wanted to write about it anyway, because Michael said some interesting things to me in an email that I wanted to pass on. Besides, I was <a href="http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/03/14/blog-hiatus-i-hear-the-beach-calling/">on vacation</a>. I only blogged a couple of times, believe it or not &#8211; once to mention Dave Winer (because I couldn&#8217;t help myself) and once to mention <a href="http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/03/23/one-word-for-web-20-in-toronto-mesh/">our Web 2.0 conference</a>, which I expect you all to come to.</p>
<p>Michael, whose track record includes <a href="http://mp3.com" title="http://mp3.com" target="_blank">mp3.com</a>, <a href="http://Linspire.com" title="http://Linspire.com" target="_blank">Linspire.com</a> and many other startups of note, sent me a message about the launch of ajaxWrite, at which point I mentioned that I was already pretty familiar with it &#8211; warts and all &#8211; since it had been all over <a href="http://tech.memeorandum.com" title="http://tech.memeorandum.com" target="_blank">tech.memeorandum.com</a> for most of that day (okay, I checked memeorandum the odd time too while I was on vacation &#8211; so sue me). He mentioned that the site had been &#8220;a little slow because of the unexpected traffic,&#8221; but that other than that things were working fine.</p>
<p>Naturally, I asked him how he thought ajaxWrite would stack up against <a href="http://Writely.com" title="http://Writely.com" target="_blank">Writely.com</a>, since many people &#8211; including my friend <a href="http://evans.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2006/3/23/1837110.html">Mark Evans</a> &#8211; noted the obvious similarities with the Web 2.0 service that Google just bought (which I have used many times in planning <a href="http://www.meshconference.com">mesh</a> and quite like, particularly because it allows real-time collaboration on a file). Here&#8217;s what he said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Writely has a richer feature set then ajaxWrite does because they offer online storage and sharing. We just launched ajaxWrite, so we&#8217;ll match them over time.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, it sounds like the version we&#8217;re looking at now is just 1.0, or maybe 0.9. Not surprising, since Writely has been around for some time now, and Michael has presumably been watching its success. He added:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Having said that, ajaxWrite has a significant advantage. It looks and operates like a true desktop application, not a web page with some pseudo-menu-buttons. This means it&#8217;s immediately comfortable to desktop users, making a seamless transition possible. Imagine software/services being embedded into the browser/email/OS to seamlessly launch support for popular file formats as encounter them.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Then I asked him whether it bothered him at all that Writely had been bought by Google and therefore the field had grown substantially more competitive. Here&#8217;s what he said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;No. I don&#8217;t subscribe to the &#8220;google is invincible&#8221; nonsense that the press promotes. They now have near-Microsoft status on the FUD meter. A blogger simply suggests that Google might be working in a category and the tech press automatically assigns the space to Google.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>He went on to mention all the attention paid to the &#8220;mythical&#8221; Google Office, back when the company was rumoured to be talking with Sun Microsystems about something important (which turned out to be a fairly lame toolbar bundling deal).</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It was stunning how many people were talking about ajaxifying OpenOffice after the silly Sun/Google love in. I like Openoffice, but it&#8217;s a pig. It will never be a web app. To even suggest this shows a lack of understanding of the technology. If Google is all knowing, all coding and all products like so many people believe, why would they buy a tiny shop like Writely? Because they don&#8217;t have anything going on in this area and need something &#8211; that&#8217;s why. Yes, Google can throw money at it, but give me the small talented team over the rich behemoth any day because they&#8217;ll move faster and be more responsive.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Them&#8217;s fightin&#8217; words, Michael. Let the battle begin :-)</p>
<p>In case you haven&#8217;t read enough opinions about it already, Alec Saunders thinks ajaxWrite <a href="http://saunderslog.com/2006/03/23/2322/">is a dud</a>, Mike Masnick thinks the odds are <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20060323/0310214.shtml">stacked against it</a>, TDavid thinks it&#8217;s part of an <a href="http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060323/3068/">unsustainable</a> Web-app explosion and Paul Kedrosky says it is yet another example of Michael&#8217;s <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2006/03/23/bye_bye_ajaxwri.html">&#8220;stick in the eye&#8221;</a> marketing. Oh yes, and apparently ajaxWrite &#8211; despite its name &#8211; <a href="http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=551">isn&#8217;t really Ajax</a> at all. Any comment on that Michael?</p>
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		<title>Yahoo&#8217;s portal gets all Ajaxy with it</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/03/03/yahoos-portal-gets-all-ajaxy-with-it/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I haven&#8217;t been going to my Yahoo portal page at My Yahoo recently, because when I did just now I noticed that it has gotten all Ajaxy. Until recently, Yahoo had kind of been holding up the old Web 1.0 banner singlehandedly with its My Yahoo portal. In his recent roundup of Ajax [...]]]></description>
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<p>I guess I haven&#8217;t been going to my Yahoo portal page at <a href="http://my.yahoo.com">My Yahoo</a> recently, because when I did just now I noticed that it has gotten all Ajaxy. Until recently, Yahoo had kind of been holding up the old Web 1.0 banner singlehandedly with its My Yahoo portal. In his <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/ajax_homepages.php">recent roundup</a> of Ajax portals such as <a href="http://Netvibes.com" title="http://Netvibes.com" target="_blank">Netvibes.com</a> (my current favourite) and Google&#8217;s IG, ZDNet columnist and blogger Richard MacManus noted that Yahoo was &#8220;still mostly an old-style portal.&#8221;</p>
<p>But it seems the Yahooligans have been busy. Whereas you used to have go through a time-consuming process to alter the layout of your page and where various boxes go, My Yahoo pages now allow you to <a href="http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/my/myyahoo/myyahoo-49.html">drag the various elements</a> around however you want, just like those other Ajax sites, which is a whole lot easier. Yahoo also seems to have implemented an Ajax-type &#8220;mouseover&#8221; feature when you hover over a headline in the news wire modules, which gives you the first paragraph of each story.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t seem to work with all the wires &#8211; for me, it worked on the Associated Press technology feed, and the Reuters technology wire, but not on the <a href="http://Marketwatch.com" title="http://Marketwatch.com" target="_blank">Marketwatch.com</a> wire or the Reuters market report wire. Still, it&#8217;s a great feature to have if you&#8217;re quickly surfing the headlines. Nice work from Yahoo &#8211; which also has an open API (application programming interface) I believe, which means we could theoretically see modules developed by others plugged into My Yahoo. The &#8220;old guard&#8221; isn&#8217;t dead yet, it seems.</p>
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		<title>The Web as a platform &#8212; or not</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2005/12/03/the-web-as-a-platform-or-not/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 14:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
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<p>Is the Web a platform, or is it just something you should use to build a platform? That&#8217;s not a <a href="http://mtmt.essortment.com/zenkoanspiritu_rlmp.htm">Zen koan</a>, it&#8217;s an attempt to categorize one of the discussions going on in Web 2.0-land. You might think it&#8217;s an easy one to solve, since Tim O&#8217;Reilly &#8212; one of the guys who came up with the term  &#8212; says that the idea of Web 2.0 involves <a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html">&#8220;the Web as platform.&#8221;</a> In other words, the Web is an integral part of a service like Google Maps or Flickr.</p>
<p>Others seem to disagree, as Fred Wilson <a href="http://avc.blogs.com/a_vc/2005/12/i_thought_the_w.html">notes in a recent post</a>. Jeremy Zawodny seems to feel that the Web is what you use <a href="http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/005793.html">to build a platform</a>. And how do you build one? Greg Linden says Web 2.0 consists so far of &#8220;mashups&#8221; that simply throw together <a href="http://glinden.blogspot.com/2005/11/is-web-20-nothing-more-than-mashups.html">something like Google Maps with classified listings</a>, his point being that if that&#8217;s all there is to your service, you are likely to get overtaken. Don Park says all the fuss over Web 2.0 is like <a href="http://www.docuverse.com/blog/donpark/EntryViewPage.aspx?guid=80037305-6879-4329-97d0-62757bd7b5c5">&#8220;a party inside MacGyver&#8217;s shoebox.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>In a way, Don Park and Greg Linden have a point &#8212; if this new revolution (or evolution) is just about cool Ajax sites and neat mashups using Google Maps and [fill in the blank], it&#8217;s hard to see it having any lasting effect. What makes things like <a href="http://Flickr.com" title="http://Flickr.com" target="_blank">Flickr.com</a> different? Not the platform, and not the Ajax, but the interaction &#8212; the community. And finding ways to enhance it, like RSS and open APIs and so on. </p>
<p>Fred points to <a href="http://www.paulgraham.com/web20.html">a perceptive essay by Paul Graham</a>, and says the main point is &#8220;the Web is a platform and you must build on top of it and you must be open and you must not try to lock people in.  If you do, you are eventually going to regret it.&#8221; Words to live by.</p>
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		<title>Netvibes rules &#8212; hear that, Bill?</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2005/11/09/netvibes-rules-hear-that-bill/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
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<p>The new Windows Live initiative that Microsoft launched with much fanfare recently &#8212; which was followed up by <a href="http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2005/11/09/bill-tries-to-rally-the-troops-again/">the two &#8220;sea change&#8221; memos from Bill Gates and Ray Ozzie</a> &#8212; included an AJAX-driven customizable webpage at <a href="http://www.live.com" title="http://www.live.com" target="_blank">www.live.com</a>, which was kind of buggy but promised to allow users to design their own home page and include RSS feeds of their choice, as well as other content. Which is a great idea, except for one thing: not only is Google already doing this to some extent with <a href="http://www.google.com/ig">its home page</a>, but a little startup called <a href="http://Netvibes.com" title="http://Netvibes.com" target="_blank">Netvibes.com</a> is already doing it way better than either one of them. </p>
<p>I used to run my own RSS aggregator and feed reader based on a Linux server in my basement (running Debian and &#8220;feed on feeds&#8221; if you&#8217;re interested), but lately I&#8217;ve been using <a href="http://Netvibes.com" title="http://Netvibes.com" target="_blank">Netvibes.com</a>, and it is fantastic. It is fast, customizable, accepts almost any feed &#8212; including tag-targeted feeds from <a href="http://Technorati.com" title="http://Technorati.com" target="_blank">Technorati.com</a> &#8212; and updates the feeds automatically. Clicking a link opens a window with the item, and a link to open it in a new browser tab or window. When you&#8217;re done reading a feed, a simple click on a small arrow at the top of the box with the feed in it &#8220;rolls up&#8221; the window. You can also add a weather applet and a search box, and of course like most AJAX-y pages, you can drag all the boxes around and arrange them any way you want. Fast. Simple. Easy. Free.</p>
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