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	<title>Comments on: Yahoo: We are so totally screwed</title>
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		<title>By: mathewi</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/11/05/yahoo-we-are-so-totally-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-374863</link>
		<dc:creator>mathewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, you are quite right that Yahoo isn&#039;t exactly bankrupt -- it has lots&lt;br&gt;of cash flow, it has plenty of assets, and so on.  And my headline was&lt;br&gt;obviously a little bit hyperbolic, in an effort to be colorful.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At the same time, however, you can&#039;t deny that Yahoo&#039;s search efforts have&lt;br&gt;been a dismal failure, and that&#039;s what the Google deal was supposed to&lt;br&gt;solve.  The only option now is Microsoft -- the same deal that Jerry Yang&lt;br&gt;and the board already blew once.  That&#039;s not a great position to be in, no&lt;br&gt;matter how you slice it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, you are quite right that Yahoo isn&#39;t exactly bankrupt &#8212; it has lots<br />of cash flow, it has plenty of assets, and so on.  And my headline was<br />obviously a little bit hyperbolic, in an effort to be colorful.</p>
<p>At the same time, however, you can&#39;t deny that Yahoo&#39;s search efforts have<br />been a dismal failure, and that&#39;s what the Google deal was supposed to<br />solve.  The only option now is Microsoft &#8212; the same deal that Jerry Yang<br />and the board already blew once.  That&#39;s not a great position to be in, no<br />matter how you slice it.</p>
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		<title>By: mathewi</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/11/05/yahoo-we-are-so-totally-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-343993</link>
		<dc:creator>mathewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, you are quite right that Yahoo isn&#039;t exactly bankrupt -- it has lots&lt;br&gt;of cash flow, it has plenty of assets, and so on.  And my headline was&lt;br&gt;obviously a little bit hyperbolic, in an effort to be colorful.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At the same time, however, you can&#039;t deny that Yahoo&#039;s search efforts have&lt;br&gt;been a dismal failure, and that&#039;s what the Google deal was supposed to&lt;br&gt;solve.  The only option now is Microsoft -- the same deal that Jerry Yang&lt;br&gt;and the board already blew once.  That&#039;s not a great position to be in, no&lt;br&gt;matter how you slice it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, you are quite right that Yahoo isn&#39;t exactly bankrupt &#8212; it has lots<br />of cash flow, it has plenty of assets, and so on.  And my headline was<br />obviously a little bit hyperbolic, in an effort to be colorful.</p>
<p>At the same time, however, you can&#39;t deny that Yahoo&#39;s search efforts have<br />been a dismal failure, and that&#39;s what the Google deal was supposed to<br />solve.  The only option now is Microsoft &#8212; the same deal that Jerry Yang<br />and the board already blew once.  That&#39;s not a great position to be in, no<br />matter how you slice it.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnMcDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/11/05/yahoo-we-are-so-totally-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-343983</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnMcDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So is this announcement just Jerry Yang begging for Microsoft to make a new offer?  Yahoo may still have traffic and profitability, but that sense of decline is inescapable.  They haven&#039;t had any kind of indication of growth or innovation for a while, their biggest news has been related to potential acquisitions and partnerships.  If the FTC and MSFT are going to block any joint ventures, I don&#039;t see how they are going to get their stock value back up to what the investors used to have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is this announcement just Jerry Yang begging for Microsoft to make a new offer?  Yahoo may still have traffic and profitability, but that sense of decline is inescapable.  They haven&#39;t had any kind of indication of growth or innovation for a while, their biggest news has been related to potential acquisitions and partnerships.  If the FTC and MSFT are going to block any joint ventures, I don&#39;t see how they are going to get their stock value back up to what the investors used to have.</p>
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		<title>By: mathewi</title>
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		<dc:creator>mathewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, you are quite right that Yahoo isn&#039;t exactly bankrupt -- it has lots of cash flow, it has plenty of assets, and so on.  And my headline was obviously a little bit hyperbolic, in an effort to be colorful.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At the same time, however, you can&#039;t deny that Yahoo&#039;s search efforts have been a dismal failure, and that&#039;s what the Google deal was supposed to solve.  The only option now is Microsoft -- the same deal that Jerry Yang and the board already blew once.  That&#039;s not a great position to be in, no matter how you slice it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, you are quite right that Yahoo isn&#39;t exactly bankrupt &#8212; it has lots of cash flow, it has plenty of assets, and so on.  And my headline was obviously a little bit hyperbolic, in an effort to be colorful.</p>
<p>At the same time, however, you can&#39;t deny that Yahoo&#39;s search efforts have been a dismal failure, and that&#39;s what the Google deal was supposed to solve.  The only option now is Microsoft &#8212; the same deal that Jerry Yang and the board already blew once.  That&#39;s not a great position to be in, no matter how you slice it.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyBeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyBeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me if this sounds a bit dense...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. Yahoo is still making a profit, though obviously shareholders would like more&lt;br&gt;2. Yahoo is in a bit of a decline compared to Google, but is still growing&lt;br&gt;3. They have made some good purchases, they just haven&#039;t really meshed them together yet&lt;br&gt;4. Sure they have lost some good staff, but they still have 1000s more&lt;br&gt;5. Hiring new good staff at current valuation probably isn&#039;t going to be too difficult&lt;br&gt;6. A lot of their revenue is display advertising, which will see a decline, but they are likely to still see profits&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is quite possible that they won&#039;t see a similar valuation to the Microsoft offering earlier in the year, but if shareholders had benefitted from that deal, who is to say they wouldn&#039;t have lost a similar amount after reinvesting the proceeds of a sale in say Google?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would have loved to see what a combined MSFT/YHOO would have done to change the landscape online, especially in search, but I still don&#039;t see why they are &quot;totally screwed&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me if this sounds a bit dense&#8230;</p>
<p>1. Yahoo is still making a profit, though obviously shareholders would like more<br />2. Yahoo is in a bit of a decline compared to Google, but is still growing<br />3. They have made some good purchases, they just haven&#39;t really meshed them together yet<br />4. Sure they have lost some good staff, but they still have 1000s more<br />5. Hiring new good staff at current valuation probably isn&#39;t going to be too difficult<br />6. A lot of their revenue is display advertising, which will see a decline, but they are likely to still see profits</p>
<p>It is quite possible that they won&#39;t see a similar valuation to the Microsoft offering earlier in the year, but if shareholders had benefitted from that deal, who is to say they wouldn&#39;t have lost a similar amount after reinvesting the proceeds of a sale in say Google?</p>
<p>I would have loved to see what a combined MSFT/YHOO would have done to change the landscape online, especially in search, but I still don&#39;t see why they are &#8220;totally screwed&#8221;</p>
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