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	<title>Comments on: Hey hey, you you &#8212; get off of my cloud</title>
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		<title>By: windows 7 news</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/09/29/hey-hey-you-you-get-off-of-my-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-374019</link>
		<dc:creator>windows 7 news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be nice if we all made our own clothes out of hemp fiber, and used wind power to generate all of our energy, and so on. But that probably isn’t going to happen any time soon either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice if we all made our own clothes out of hemp fiber, and used wind power to generate all of our energy, and so on. But that probably isn’t going to happen any time soon either.</p>
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		<title>By: windows 7 news</title>
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		<dc:creator>windows 7 news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be nice if we all made our own clothes out of hemp fiber, and used wind power to generate all of our energy, and so on. But that probably isn’t going to happen any time soon either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice if we all made our own clothes out of hemp fiber, and used wind power to generate all of our energy, and so on. But that probably isn’t going to happen any time soon either.</p>
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		<title>By: Getting Addicted to Gmail? Chances Are Google Will Charge You Once &#124; Profy &#124; Internet news and commentary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Getting Addicted to Gmail? Chances Are Google Will Charge You Once &#124; Profy &#124; Internet news and commentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Guardian today about the dangers of cloud computing that resulted in quite an animated discussion in the blogosphere making people forget the tech companies stock valuations for a moment and try to figure out if we [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blaise Alleyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blaise Alleyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s as binary as RMS seems to suggest that it is in that interview, there is a &quot;freedom-respecting&quot; medium. Over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://autonomo.us/&quot;&gt;autonomo.us&lt;/a&gt;, for example (which the FSF has been supportive of), people in the free software community are working out what it means to be freedom-respecting in the cloud. Take identi.ca for example.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course it&#039;s inevitable that people will use services that are free and convenient. What&#039;s important, from a free software perspective, is to make sure there are more of those services like Identi.ca, less like Google&#039;s services (which I admittedly use a lot). RMS gets that on some level at least, though that&#039;s still new territory for the FSF that they&#039;re currently trying to feel out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think it&#39;s as binary as RMS seems to suggest that it is in that interview, there is a &#8220;freedom-respecting&#8221; medium. Over at <a href="http://autonomo.us/">autonomo.us</a>, for example (which the FSF has been supportive of), people in the free software community are working out what it means to be freedom-respecting in the cloud. Take identi.ca for example.</p>
<p>Of course it&#39;s inevitable that people will use services that are free and convenient. What&#39;s important, from a free software perspective, is to make sure there are more of those services like Identi.ca, less like Google&#39;s services (which I admittedly use a lot). RMS gets that on some level at least, though that&#39;s still new territory for the FSF that they&#39;re currently trying to feel out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamaal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you work with computers, you most likely use dozens if not hundreds of freedom-respecting programs a day, including most of the infrastructure of the entire internet.  Equating trusting your vital data to locally hosted as-free-as-possible software to living in caves and fishing with your hands is a little disingenuous.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, no one would slight anyone using the cloud for things that are convenient and not crucial or overly private.  I, in the past, have used gym lockers, coatrooms, and left my shoes at the doors of establishments and residences that would prefer that I not wear them inside.  Equivocating between that and &quot;[...]moving to a &#039;cloud&#039; model â€” even if it does involve storing all their files and mail and photos with The Great Google in the Sky[...]&quot; is not constructive.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just like the original dot-com bubble burst when people realized that e-commerce was just really reactive catalog shopping and wouldn&#039;t alter the laws of physics to create money out of thin air, eventually people will realize that cloud computing is just storing every document that you have offsite, just 1000x less trustworthy, and accessible and deletable by at least 1000 employees of Google at any particular time, from any location on Earth. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That being said, I love being able to test out and deploy stuff on EC2, just don&#039;t expect to see my medical records or client lists in the cloud any time soon.  I would much prefer to have them locked inside a .pst file that is only openable by an outdated version of Outlook that only runs on Windows ME, or even, maybe, take Stallman&#039;s advice because he thinks about the implications stuff a lot more than I do (and the solutions that are the result of what he&#039;s established are often really nice and easy to use!), and shouldn&#039;t be flippantly dismissed like some ignorant throwback dirty hairy hippie.  Even though he is a throwback hairy hippie.  He also may be dirty, but I haven&#039;t smelled him.  He looks a little dirty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you work with computers, you most likely use dozens if not hundreds of freedom-respecting programs a day, including most of the infrastructure of the entire internet.  Equating trusting your vital data to locally hosted as-free-as-possible software to living in caves and fishing with your hands is a little disingenuous.</p>
<p>Also, no one would slight anyone using the cloud for things that are convenient and not crucial or overly private.  I, in the past, have used gym lockers, coatrooms, and left my shoes at the doors of establishments and residences that would prefer that I not wear them inside.  Equivocating between that and &#8220;[...]moving to a &#39;cloud&#39; model â€” even if it does involve storing all their files and mail and photos with The Great Google in the Sky[...]&#8221; is not constructive.</p>
<p>Just like the original dot-com bubble burst when people realized that e-commerce was just really reactive catalog shopping and wouldn&#39;t alter the laws of physics to create money out of thin air, eventually people will realize that cloud computing is just storing every document that you have offsite, just 1000x less trustworthy, and accessible and deletable by at least 1000 employees of Google at any particular time, from any location on Earth. </p>
<p>That being said, I love being able to test out and deploy stuff on EC2, just don&#39;t expect to see my medical records or client lists in the cloud any time soon.  I would much prefer to have them locked inside a .pst file that is only openable by an outdated version of Outlook that only runs on Windows ME, or even, maybe, take Stallman&#39;s advice because he thinks about the implications stuff a lot more than I do (and the solutions that are the result of what he&#39;s established are often really nice and easy to use!), and shouldn&#39;t be flippantly dismissed like some ignorant throwback dirty hairy hippie.  Even though he is a throwback hairy hippie.  He also may be dirty, but I haven&#39;t smelled him.  He looks a little dirty.</p>
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