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	<title>Comments on: Mac vs. Windows: Does it even matter?</title>
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		<title>By: 300baud</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/08/17/mac-vs-windows-does-it-even-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-374796</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have guessed you were a fellow Atarian!  I wonder if we were on any of the same BBSes.  I&#039;m working on a web-hosted simulation of 1980s Atari BBSing right now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I find myself worrying about what OS is running, I&#039;ve probably already failed.  It&#039;s a very easy mistake!  What I think an OS is for and what a commercial vendor thinks an OS is for are very different things.  I want to OSes to be like you say they are; freely replaceable, just a small matter of preference.  But OS vendors work very hard to ensure that is not the case.  You have to shave with Microsoft razor blades and drive on Apple roads, if there is any way they can manage it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Everything I do is also on the web, but I look at the web from the other side of the screen.  From my point of view, Microsoft makes designer consumer products for the purpose of generating constant cash flow.  There&#039;s an OS in their product somewhere, but it&#039;s like the OS that might be embedded in your photocopier; you&#039;re not really allowed to use it.  I am not terribly familiar with OSX and I am inclined to think that it is not as bad, but Apple has been extremely &quot;innovative&quot; in the area of user lock-in.  I assume I&#039;m just ignorant of how the OS helps achieve that goal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I work hard to isolate myself and my code from the host operating system.  I consider it none of my business, and I appreciate it when it keeps out of mine.  But it takes a great deal of careful discipline to achieve.  So I agree with you philosophically, and perhaps there is a convincing user-level illusion that all OSes are the same... but try and change the OS that hosts your web applications and databases, and see if it&#039;s a simple matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have guessed you were a fellow Atarian!  I wonder if we were on any of the same BBSes.  I&#39;m working on a web-hosted simulation of 1980s Atari BBSing right now.</p>
<p>If I find myself worrying about what OS is running, I&#39;ve probably already failed.  It&#39;s a very easy mistake!  What I think an OS is for and what a commercial vendor thinks an OS is for are very different things.  I want to OSes to be like you say they are; freely replaceable, just a small matter of preference.  But OS vendors work very hard to ensure that is not the case.  You have to shave with Microsoft razor blades and drive on Apple roads, if there is any way they can manage it.</p>
<p>Everything I do is also on the web, but I look at the web from the other side of the screen.  From my point of view, Microsoft makes designer consumer products for the purpose of generating constant cash flow.  There&#39;s an OS in their product somewhere, but it&#39;s like the OS that might be embedded in your photocopier; you&#39;re not really allowed to use it.  I am not terribly familiar with OSX and I am inclined to think that it is not as bad, but Apple has been extremely &#8220;innovative&#8221; in the area of user lock-in.  I assume I&#39;m just ignorant of how the OS helps achieve that goal.</p>
<p>I work hard to isolate myself and my code from the host operating system.  I consider it none of my business, and I appreciate it when it keeps out of mine.  But it takes a great deal of careful discipline to achieve.  So I agree with you philosophically, and perhaps there is a convincing user-level illusion that all OSes are the same&#8230; but try and change the OS that hosts your web applications and databases, and see if it&#39;s a simple matter.</p>
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		<title>By: 300baud</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/08/17/mac-vs-windows-does-it-even-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-339081</link>
		<dc:creator>300baud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have guessed you were a fellow Atarian!  I wonder if we were on any of the same BBSes.  I&#039;m working on a web-hosted simulation of 1980s Atari BBSing right now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I find myself worrying about what OS is running, I&#039;ve probably already failed.  It&#039;s a very easy mistake!  What I think an OS is for and what a commercial vendor thinks an OS is for are very different things.  I want to OSes to be like you say they are; freely replaceable, just a small matter of preference.  But OS vendors work very hard to ensure that is not the case.  You have to shave with Microsoft razor blades and drive on Apple roads, if there is any way they can manage it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Everything I do is also on the web, but I look at the web from the other side of the screen.  From my point of view, Microsoft makes designer consumer products for the purpose of generating constant cash flow.  There&#039;s an OS in their product somewhere, but it&#039;s like the OS that might be embedded in your photocopier; you&#039;re not really allowed to use it.  I am not terribly familiar with OSX and I am inclined to think that it is not as bad, but Apple has been extremely &quot;innovative&quot; in the area of user lock-in.  I assume I&#039;m just ignorant of how the OS helps achieve that goal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I work hard to isolate myself and my code from the host operating system.  I consider it none of my business, and I appreciate it when it keeps out of mine.  But it takes a great deal of careful discipline to achieve.  So I agree with you philosophically, and perhaps there is a convincing user-level illusion that all OSes are the same... but try and change the OS that hosts your web applications and databases, and see if it&#039;s a simple matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have guessed you were a fellow Atarian!  I wonder if we were on any of the same BBSes.  I&#39;m working on a web-hosted simulation of 1980s Atari BBSing right now.</p>
<p>If I find myself worrying about what OS is running, I&#39;ve probably already failed.  It&#39;s a very easy mistake!  What I think an OS is for and what a commercial vendor thinks an OS is for are very different things.  I want to OSes to be like you say they are; freely replaceable, just a small matter of preference.  But OS vendors work very hard to ensure that is not the case.  You have to shave with Microsoft razor blades and drive on Apple roads, if there is any way they can manage it.</p>
<p>Everything I do is also on the web, but I look at the web from the other side of the screen.  From my point of view, Microsoft makes designer consumer products for the purpose of generating constant cash flow.  There&#39;s an OS in their product somewhere, but it&#39;s like the OS that might be embedded in your photocopier; you&#39;re not really allowed to use it.  I am not terribly familiar with OSX and I am inclined to think that it is not as bad, but Apple has been extremely &#8220;innovative&#8221; in the area of user lock-in.  I assume I&#39;m just ignorant of how the OS helps achieve that goal.</p>
<p>I work hard to isolate myself and my code from the host operating system.  I consider it none of my business, and I appreciate it when it keeps out of mine.  But it takes a great deal of careful discipline to achieve.  So I agree with you philosophically, and perhaps there is a convincing user-level illusion that all OSes are the same&#8230; but try and change the OS that hosts your web applications and databases, and see if it&#39;s a simple matter.</p>
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		<title>By: antje wilsch</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/08/17/mac-vs-windows-does-it-even-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-338986</link>
		<dc:creator>antje wilsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must be a developer :) I can&#039;t even remember which VMware environment I&#039;m in half the time. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OS is not important to most end users except for how the browser behaves. I still prefer aethetically the way that most sites look in IE7 over Opera, Safari and FF (even FF3 - not that impressed), but FF is more stable so I switch between them constantly, and they behave differently depending on which system I&#039;m on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be a developer :) I can&#39;t even remember which VMware environment I&#39;m in half the time. </p>
<p>OS is not important to most end users except for how the browser behaves. I still prefer aethetically the way that most sites look in IE7 over Opera, Safari and FF (even FF3 &#8211; not that impressed), but FF is more stable so I switch between them constantly, and they behave differently depending on which system I&#39;m on.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Beckham</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/08/17/mac-vs-windows-does-it-even-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-338955</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Beckham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that web-based applications have made operating systems less important to web workers, but I still find that Windows machines tend to run slower and be less responsive than their Mac counterparts. The personal computers around my house all have entry-level to mid-level horsepower, but the older iBook G4 consistently completes tasks faster than its Windows counterparts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that web-based applications have made operating systems less important to web workers, but I still find that Windows machines tend to run slower and be less responsive than their Mac counterparts. The personal computers around my house all have entry-level to mid-level horsepower, but the older iBook G4 consistently completes tasks faster than its Windows counterparts.</p>
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