Comments on: Israel and Feldman: High school 2.0?

By: mkrigsman

mkrigsman — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:37:50 +0000

In orchestrating a public character assassination for little more than kicks, giggles, and page views, an innocent person has been hurt. Would someone please explain what this has achieved?

Matthew, I generally enjoy and respect your work. However, Loren has become the new Jerry Springer and you've now perpetuated the least common denominator by trivializing this issue into a high school soap opera.

By: JoeDuck

JoeDuck — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:26:12 +0000

Not up on details but inclined to agree this case is *not* like Kathy Sierra (or Jakob's case where I don't agree with you). Threats to egos are part of the free speech landscape as they should be.

However I also think that the thick skin “real” reporters like you have developed over time may blind you to the fact that as others jump into the writer's fray we run the risk of losing thoughtful voices because they are unwilling to endure the threats and abuse that are increasingly accepted by most of us as part of the online landscape.

[groan - how much actual *work* do Web 2.0 writers actually get done, anyway?]

By: mathewi

mathewi — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:21:06 +0000

I knew it reminded me of something — and the Larry David show is
pretty darn close :-)

By: leigh

leigh — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:15:00 +0000

I found it funny for a while…but when I started to wish Loren would go back to taking his shirt off and talking to the camera up close i realized the whole Shel puppet routine was kinda losing its appeal for me.

it reminds me of the Larry David show. I don't find it all that funny bc it's just like spending an afternoon with my family.

“Your embarrassed? You think I go to far? You think I don't get boundaries? I'll show you boundaries.” [insert really loud voice in a full restaurant] “How about this. Penis! ”

You get the idea. Loren Feldman. Like every middle class neurotic self-deprecating over analytical love him or hate him Jewish man i know.

By: marcel weiss

marcel weiss — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:08:37 +0000

"that it's not up to us to tell Shel how to
respond, and that he shouldn't be picked on, etc. -- except for the
fact that he is supposed to be the guy who gets all of this stuff."

That's the mainpoint of this story for me.
I mean we have here one person who is supposed to be an expert on online conversations, social media, yaddayadda and yet he fails to handle properly one other person with a handpuppet(!) mocking him online.
So Shel either doesn't know what he's talking about or he doesn't know how to put his own knowledge to use.
Either way, not Feldman did hurt Shel Israels reputation but shel did.
It's indeed fascinating how he as an 'expert' completely failed on this.
In fact it's musiclabelexec-fail-level.