Comments on: Bloggers get “paid” with comments http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/28/bloggers-get-paid-with-comments/ ... at the intersection of media, technology, business and the web Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:41:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: mathewi http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/28/bloggers-get-paid-with-comments/#comment-340319 mathewi Thu, 29 May 2008 20:36:04 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2450#comment-340319 I don't think it's that they're against their blog posts being<br>discussed outside their own blog, Joe -- I think most of them would<br>just like an easier way to find out when that's happening so they can<br>take part in the discussion (or at least know about it), which I can<br>sympathize with. I don't think it's that they're against their blog posts being
discussed outside their own blog, Joe — I think most of them would
just like an easier way to find out when that's happening so they can
take part in the discussion (or at least know about it), which I can
sympathize with.

]]> By: Joe Sherrod http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/28/bloggers-get-paid-with-comments/#comment-340318 Joe Sherrod Thu, 29 May 2008 20:23:38 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2450#comment-340318 Bloggers who are against their blog being discussed outside the blog clearly do not want the free advertising. These idiots should read up on grassroots marketing 101. Bloggers who are against their blog being discussed outside the blog clearly do not want the free advertising. These idiots should read up on grassroots marketing 101.

]]> By: michael lamb http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/28/bloggers-get-paid-with-comments/#comment-340317 michael lamb Thu, 29 May 2008 19:59:19 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2450#comment-340317 Can make the blogger's life tough because there is an expectation of a reply [no reply needed here ;) ]<br><br>Right now I'm involved working with writers on human interest stories, and it's *really* tough to get them to understand that they need to do this - to interact with their users. They just want to publish and be done with it. They truly feel like this is extra "work" they didn't agree to/ sign on for and don't yet get the dynamicsm you mention, how it can grow. They want to leave this to the marketing folks only, but that's not what the users want. It's going to take some work to change this mindset as "news" (in whatever form) often being a beginning rather than an end product. Can make the blogger's life tough because there is an expectation of a reply [no reply needed here ;) ]

Right now I'm involved working with writers on human interest stories, and it's *really* tough to get them to understand that they need to do this - to interact with their users. They just want to publish and be done with it. They truly feel like this is extra “work” they didn't agree to/ sign on for and don't yet get the dynamicsm you mention, how it can grow. They want to leave this to the marketing folks only, but that's not what the users want. It's going to take some work to change this mindset as “news” (in whatever form) often being a beginning rather than an end product.

]]> By: mathewi http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/28/bloggers-get-paid-with-comments/#comment-340316 mathewi Thu, 29 May 2008 18:05:04 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2450#comment-340316 I think that's an excellent way of putting it, Antje -- so much<br>traditional media (including that at my own paper) is seen as an end<br>point rather than a starting point. The primary benefit of online<br>media of any kind, blogs or whatever, is that it is a beginning of<br>something, and that comments and responses and links make up something<br>much larger (and hopefully better) than the original thing. I think that's an excellent way of putting it, Antje — so much
traditional media (including that at my own paper) is seen as an end
point rather than a starting point. The primary benefit of online
media of any kind, blogs or whatever, is that it is a beginning of
something, and that comments and responses and links make up something
much larger (and hopefully better) than the original thing.

]]> By: antje wilsch http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/28/bloggers-get-paid-with-comments/#comment-340315 antje wilsch Thu, 29 May 2008 17:08:30 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2450#comment-340315 You and I have been chatting about this a little bit. I still read my paper every single day. I also read the news online (and as the AP becomes more and more filler) I'll find I've already read many of the articles.<br><br>So with one foot in each world (and I prefer Huffington's ménage à trois idea of journalism-blogger-reader better) one of the things I"m finding irks me is that it's nearly impossible to get to an individual AP writer. They bury their contact information. On the flip side, bloggers who never comment on their own posts or post with mostly negative comments (ie only comment on trolls) I also find myself reading less.<br><br>I am tending towards idea that a blog post is the beginning of the discussion / conversation (albeit usually short lived) vs. a newspaper article that I read and am usually finished with by the end (ie I have no expectation of anything further) whereas a blog post is a starting point. You and I have been chatting about this a little bit. I still read my paper every single day. I also read the news online (and as the AP becomes more and more filler) I'll find I've already read many of the articles.

So with one foot in each world (and I prefer Huffington's ménage à trois idea of journalism-blogger-reader better) one of the things I”m finding irks me is that it's nearly impossible to get to an individual AP writer. They bury their contact information. On the flip side, bloggers who never comment on their own posts or post with mostly negative comments (ie only comment on trolls) I also find myself reading less.

I am tending towards idea that a blog post is the beginning of the discussion / conversation (albeit usually short lived) vs. a newspaper article that I read and am usually finished with by the end (ie I have no expectation of anything further) whereas a blog post is a starting point.

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