Comments on: Blogs and the attribution dilemma http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/12/blogs-and-the-attribution-dilemma/ ... at the intersection of media, technology, business and the web Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:18:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: who cares http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/12/blogs-and-the-attribution-dilemma/#comment-342077 who cares Tue, 13 May 2008 14:44:51 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2413#comment-342077 "But a history of this behavior and you bet I'm going to call BS on it."<br><br>Put up or shut up.<br><br>Be sure to provide specific evidence of plagiarism (or whatever it is that you're bitching about). “But a history of this behavior and you bet I'm going to call BS on it.”

Put up or shut up.

Be sure to provide specific evidence of plagiarism (or whatever it is that you're bitching about).

]]> By: Kyle Mathews http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/12/blogs-and-the-attribution-dilemma/#comment-342082 Kyle Mathews Tue, 13 May 2008 14:42:04 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2413#comment-342082 so it's silly for anyone without hard proof to jump to conclusion that someone else with the same idea MUST of stolen it from you. Two people with similar background, reading the same material, thinking about the same subject, are more likely than not to occasionally have an identical thought. so it's silly for anyone without hard proof to jump to conclusion that someone else with the same idea MUST of stolen it from you. Two people with similar background, reading the same material, thinking about the same subject, are more likely than not to occasionally have an identical thought.

]]> By: Kyle Mathews http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/12/blogs-and-the-attribution-dilemma/#comment-342081 Kyle Mathews Tue, 13 May 2008 14:39:25 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2413#comment-342081 I think that it's entirely plausible that both Ars and Siegler could of come up with the same idea at the same time. Comparing Apple's strategy to Risk isn't a huge stretch of the imagination and with 1000s of bloggers writing multiple pieces a day, there will occasionally be people writing about the same idea at roughly the same time. See Marcom Gladwell's latest piece in the New Yorker "In the Air" about how dozens of scientific breakthroughs were discovered simultaneously by multiple scientist. <br><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/05/12/080512fa_fact_gladwell">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/05/12/0...</a> I think that it's entirely plausible that both Ars and Siegler could of come up with the same idea at the same time. Comparing Apple's strategy to Risk isn't a huge stretch of the imagination and with 1000s of bloggers writing multiple pieces a day, there will occasionally be people writing about the same idea at roughly the same time. See Marcom Gladwell's latest piece in the New Yorker “In the Air” about how dozens of scientific breakthroughs were discovered simultaneously by multiple scientist.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/05/12/0...

]]> By: mathewi http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/12/blogs-and-the-attribution-dilemma/#comment-342076 mathewi Tue, 13 May 2008 13:35:03 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2413#comment-342076 That's a fair point, Tim. I have asked several people for specifics<br>so that I could check them, but for a variety of reasons I guess they<br>don't want to go public with their criticisms -- perhaps in part<br>because it is difficult to pin down when it's a mistake, when it's<br>just not knowing another source was out there, and when it's<br>deliberate. That's a fair point, Tim. I have asked several people for specifics
so that I could check them, but for a variety of reasons I guess they
don't want to go public with their criticisms — perhaps in part
because it is difficult to pin down when it's a mistake, when it's
just not knowing another source was out there, and when it's
deliberate.

]]> By: Tim http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/12/blogs-and-the-attribution-dilemma/#comment-342075 Tim Tue, 13 May 2008 06:04:11 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2413#comment-342075 The problem is that everyone is referring to vague incidents but no ones showing proof. Here we have exhibit a, parislemon, with the claims & allegations he's made, and exhibit b, a story from two years ago supposedly involving a mistake that was corrected.<br><br>Im fine with people wanting to remain anonymous, but it would be nice to know that someone (Matthew?) has checked into things. I say Matthew because you aren't directly involved not because you want to get into all this. It would be good to know that there was consistent evidence--not just some allegations.<br><br>I went to ars technica and looked at the stories going back a few weeks. I see a number of links to various sources (not just circular links). <br><br>Instead of calling this a vast conspiracy against ars or a concerted attempt by ars to steal content, isn't it possible that ars simply isn't reading your work? until today i had no idea who parislemon was (sorry). The problem is that everyone is referring to vague incidents but no ones showing proof. Here we have exhibit a, parislemon, with the claims & allegations he's made, and exhibit b, a story from two years ago supposedly involving a mistake that was corrected.

Im fine with people wanting to remain anonymous, but it would be nice to know that someone (Matthew?) has checked into things. I say Matthew because you aren't directly involved not because you want to get into all this. It would be good to know that there was consistent evidence–not just some allegations.

I went to ars technica and looked at the stories going back a few weeks. I see a number of links to various sources (not just circular links).

Instead of calling this a vast conspiracy against ars or a concerted attempt by ars to steal content, isn't it possible that ars simply isn't reading your work? until today i had no idea who parislemon was (sorry).

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