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]]> By: mathewi http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/08/myspace-we-still-control-your-data/comment-page-1/#comment-341140 mathewi Fri, 09 May 2008 01:55:02 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2404#comment-341140 Those are fair points, Ben. If the partners don't get anything extra<br>out of the deal, then I admit it's more open than I assumed it to be.<br>And you are right that not everyone has the ability (or the desire) to<br>control their own data -- although they should still have that option.<br> Out of curiosity, does the API that MySpace is opening up go both<br>ways, so that data can flow into the network as well as out? Those are fair points, Ben. If the partners don't get anything extra
out of the deal, then I admit it's more open than I assumed it to be.
And you are right that not everyone has the ability (or the desire) to
control their own data — although they should still have that option.
Out of curiosity, does the API that MySpace is opening up go both
ways, so that data can flow into the network as well as out?

]]> By: Ben Metcalfe http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/08/myspace-we-still-control-your-data/comment-page-1/#comment-341139 Ben Metcalfe Fri, 09 May 2008 00:16:04 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2404#comment-341139 "I assume they're getting something that isn't possible with just the<br>regular API. Maybe I'm wrong."<br><br>Nope, they're not getting anything that won't be publicly available. I think it's becoming obvious this wasn't messaged clear enough, but then I don't write the press releases.<br><br>The only reason for having 'launch partners' is to have someone to test and debug the implementation with and also have the ability to demonstrate the complete value proposition end-to-end (not everyone understands what this is, esp less tech savvy people).<br><br>"All I was really trying to point out is that this seems primarily designed<br>(naturally) to get people to use MySpace for all of their data, and<br>allow it to act as a kind of clearinghouse for that data."<br><br>Yeah that's exactly what it is, well at least if the scope of 'all' is social network data. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's a reasonable proposition but hopefully will also stimulate other holders of social data to also release their data in interopable formats.<br><br>"I'd much rather have the data myself and let it flow to wherever I<br>want, instead of wherever MySpace wants." <br><br>MySpace won't be deciding where the data goes. That's down to the developers who choose to interop with MySpace and the users who choose to bring their data to the 3rd party.<br><br>"having your own data' is an interesting point - if you don't maintain a website (the kind of demographic of myspace users) then it's very hard to 'own your data' whilst also having it available to be subscribed to elsewhere. “I assume they're getting something that isn't possible with just the
regular API. Maybe I'm wrong.”

Nope, they're not getting anything that won't be publicly available. I think it's becoming obvious this wasn't messaged clear enough, but then I don't write the press releases.

The only reason for having 'launch partners' is to have someone to test and debug the implementation with and also have the ability to demonstrate the complete value proposition end-to-end (not everyone understands what this is, esp less tech savvy people).

“All I was really trying to point out is that this seems primarily designed
(naturally) to get people to use MySpace for all of their data, and
allow it to act as a kind of clearinghouse for that data.”

Yeah that's exactly what it is, well at least if the scope of 'all' is social network data. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's a reasonable proposition but hopefully will also stimulate other holders of social data to also release their data in interopable formats.

“I'd much rather have the data myself and let it flow to wherever I
want, instead of wherever MySpace wants.”

MySpace won't be deciding where the data goes. That's down to the developers who choose to interop with MySpace and the users who choose to bring their data to the 3rd party.

“having your own data' is an interesting point – if you don't maintain a website (the kind of demographic of myspace users) then it's very hard to 'own your data' whilst also having it available to be subscribed to elsewhere.

]]> By: Michael Sherrin http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/08/myspace-we-still-control-your-data/comment-page-1/#comment-341141 Michael Sherrin Thu, 08 May 2008 22:54:27 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2404#comment-341141 Just like Verizon's open network, I wonder if this is a lot of hype. I mean, we have Open Social waiting in the sidelines to take over. Anyway, does anyone even use MySpace anymore anyway, aside from all those spammers? Just like Verizon's open network, I wonder if this is a lot of hype. I mean, we have Open Social waiting in the sidelines to take over. Anyway, does anyone even use MySpace anymore anyway, aside from all those spammers?

]]> By: mathewi http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/08/myspace-we-still-control-your-data/comment-page-1/#comment-341138 mathewi Thu, 08 May 2008 22:45:12 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/?p=2404#comment-341138 Thanks for the comment, Ben.<br><br>Maybe I'm confused about how it works: If anyone can consume the data<br>-- assuming the permission of the user -- then what is the point of<br>announcing that Yahoo, eBay, Twitter and so on are part of this deal?<br>I assume they're getting something that isn't possible with just the<br>regular API. Maybe I'm wrong.<br><br>In any case, I'm not saying this is all bad -- far from it. As I said<br>in the post, I think it's great that MySpace and other networks are<br>opening up their data and allowing it to flow to other services. All I<br>was really trying to point out is that this seems primarily designed<br>(naturally) to get people to use MySpace for all of their data, and<br>allow it to act as a kind of clearinghouse for that data.<br><br>I'd much rather have the data myself and let it flow to wherever I<br>want, instead of wherever MySpace wants. But maybe that's just me.<br><br>Anyway, if I've misunderstood something please let me know. Thanks for the comment, Ben.

Maybe I'm confused about how it works: If anyone can consume the data
– assuming the permission of the user — then what is the point of
announcing that Yahoo, eBay, Twitter and so on are part of this deal?
I assume they're getting something that isn't possible with just the
regular API. Maybe I'm wrong.

In any case, I'm not saying this is all bad — far from it. As I said
in the post, I think it's great that MySpace and other networks are
opening up their data and allowing it to flow to other services. All I
was really trying to point out is that this seems primarily designed
(naturally) to get people to use MySpace for all of their data, and
allow it to act as a kind of clearinghouse for that data.

I'd much rather have the data myself and let it flow to wherever I
want, instead of wherever MySpace wants. But maybe that's just me.

Anyway, if I've misunderstood something please let me know.

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