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		<title>By: Aidan Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/25/web-20-in-limbo-lets-get-a-grip/comment-page-1/#comment-374691</link>
		<dc:creator>Aidan Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The potential cost of launching a new web venture nowadays can be close to 0, if you discount human labour and leverage free software/tools/platforms. For this reason, I don&#039;t see an Internet bubble in sight. I wrote about it all here:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mappingtheweb.com/2008/03/20/there-is-no-internet-bubble-and-there-wont-ever-be/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mappingtheweb.com/2008/03/20/there-i...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,&lt;br&gt;Aidan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The potential cost of launching a new web venture nowadays can be close to 0, if you discount human labour and leverage free software/tools/platforms. For this reason, I don&#39;t see an Internet bubble in sight. I wrote about it all here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mappingtheweb.com/2008/03/20/there-is-no-internet-bubble-and-there-wont-ever-be/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.mappingtheweb.com/2008/03/20/there-i.." rel="nofollow">http://www.mappingtheweb.com/2008/03/20/there-i..</a>.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />Aidan</p>
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		<title>By: Aidan Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/25/web-20-in-limbo-lets-get-a-grip/comment-page-1/#comment-339817</link>
		<dc:creator>Aidan Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The potential cost of launching a new web venture nowadays can be close to 0, if you discount human labour and leverage free software/tools/platforms. For this reason, I don&#039;t see an Internet bubble in sight. I wrote about it all here:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mappingtheweb.com/2008/03/20/there-is-no-internet-bubble-and-there-wont-ever-be/&quot;&gt;http://www.mappingtheweb.com/2008/03/20/there-i...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,&lt;br&gt;Aidan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The potential cost of launching a new web venture nowadays can be close to 0, if you discount human labour and leverage free software/tools/platforms. For this reason, I don&#39;t see an Internet bubble in sight. I wrote about it all here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mappingtheweb.com/2008/03/20/there-is-no-internet-bubble-and-there-wont-ever-be/"></a><a href="http://www.mappingtheweb.com/2008/03/20/there-i.." rel="nofollow">http://www.mappingtheweb.com/2008/03/20/there-i..</a>.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />Aidan</p>
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		<title>By: mathewi</title>
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		<dc:creator>mathewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow -- I&#039;m impressed that you were able to dismiss the past 100 years&lt;br&gt;or so worth of economic progress so quickly.  Nice work.  &quot;All of&lt;br&gt;these created a few new big businesses -- and also lots of failed&lt;br&gt;businesses.&quot;  That pretty much describes every technology ever&lt;br&gt;invented since the industrial revolution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your comment reminds me of Warren Buffett&#039;s famous saying about how&lt;br&gt;the airline industry has been a net destroyer of capital since the&lt;br&gt;Wright Brother first flew at Kitty Hawk.  The upside?  We get to fly&lt;br&gt;places instead of taking boats and cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8212; I&#39;m impressed that you were able to dismiss the past 100 years<br />or so worth of economic progress so quickly.  Nice work.  &#8220;All of<br />these created a few new big businesses &#8212; and also lots of failed<br />businesses.&#8221;  That pretty much describes every technology ever<br />invented since the industrial revolution.</p>
<p>Your comment reminds me of Warren Buffett&#39;s famous saying about how<br />the airline industry has been a net destroyer of capital since the<br />Wright Brother first flew at Kitty Hawk.  The upside?  We get to fly<br />places instead of taking boats and cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I had a feeling you would be dropping by, Seth.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, see, it wasn&#039;t different this time! :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, you&#039;re confusing one component with an overall process. That&#039;s a very standard evangelist ploy, Since the laws of mathematics haven&#039;t changed, to a good approximation, the net results will never be different.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;150 years ago, were their railroads like [BigName]? 100 years ago, was there TV and radio like [BigName]? 50 years ago, was there cheap air travel like [BigName]? All of these created a few new big businesses - and also lots of failed businesses. It&#039;s never different, in that there&#039;s always people running around saying that this time it&#039;s different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I had a feeling you would be dropping by, Seth.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, see, it wasn&#39;t different this time! :-)</p>
<p>Again, you&#39;re confusing one component with an overall process. That&#39;s a very standard evangelist ploy, Since the laws of mathematics haven&#39;t changed, to a good approximation, the net results will never be different.</p>
<p>150 years ago, were their railroads like [BigName]? 100 years ago, was there TV and radio like [BigName]? 50 years ago, was there cheap air travel like [BigName]? All of these created a few new big businesses &#8211; and also lots of failed businesses. It&#39;s never different, in that there&#39;s always people running around saying that this time it&#39;s different.</p>
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		<title>By: evan barton</title>
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		<dc:creator>evan barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that you and the mashable guy are focusing on&lt;br&gt;the wrong angle. with the exception of a handful of&lt;br&gt;very successful companies, most web 2.0 shops are&lt;br&gt;small fry. here&#039;s the problem: the CPMs utterly blow -&lt;br&gt;and unless you&#039;re a onesie, twosie shop and can keep&lt;br&gt;expense way low, it&#039;s tough to make a buck. more power&lt;br&gt;to anyone who can do that but then you&#039;re not talking&lt;br&gt;about the next google here. second point, in a&lt;br&gt;recession, who do you think is going to get whacked&lt;br&gt;first? that&#039;s easy. advertising-dependent startups.&lt;br&gt;i&#039;m not saying the web 2.0 landscape will get&lt;br&gt;decimated but let&#039;s not close our eyes to what&#039;s&lt;br&gt;happening on the ground. also,.lots more enterprise&lt;br&gt;companies are getting into the space and they have&lt;br&gt;staying power just in case the economy heads south.&lt;br&gt;saw this post apropos...http://www.news.com/8301-10787_3-9929415-60.html?tag=nefd.top</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that you and the mashable guy are focusing on<br />the wrong angle. with the exception of a handful of<br />very successful companies, most web 2.0 shops are<br />small fry. here&#39;s the problem: the CPMs utterly blow -<br />and unless you&#39;re a onesie, twosie shop and can keep<br />expense way low, it&#39;s tough to make a buck. more power<br />to anyone who can do that but then you&#39;re not talking<br />about the next google here. second point, in a<br />recession, who do you think is going to get whacked<br />first? that&#39;s easy. advertising-dependent startups.<br />i&#39;m not saying the web 2.0 landscape will get<br />decimated but let&#39;s not close our eyes to what&#39;s<br />happening on the ground. also,.lots more enterprise<br />companies are getting into the space and they have<br />staying power just in case the economy heads south.<br />saw this post apropos&#8230;http://www.news.com/8301-10787_3-9929415-60.html?tag=nefd.top</p>
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