Comments on: New York Times vs. blogs: wrong question http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/02/02/new-york-times-vs-blogs-wrong-question/ ... at the intersection of media, technology, business and the web Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:26:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: simon billing http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/02/02/new-york-times-vs-blogs-wrong-question/#comment-341279 simon billing Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:07:51 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/02/02/new-york-times-vs-blogs-wrong-question/#comment-341279 Hope Ed Greenspon is tuned into your blog. The Times gets it, the Guardian gets it but many other news orgs. still don't. Hope Ed Greenspon is tuned into your blog. The Times gets it, the Guardian gets it but many other news orgs. still don't.

]]> By: antje wilsch http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/02/02/new-york-times-vs-blogs-wrong-question/#comment-341275 antje wilsch Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:49:18 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/02/02/new-york-times-vs-blogs-wrong-question/#comment-341275 Unfortunately I don't hear about anyone blogging right now from Kenya, Darfur. One in Burma got arrested / silenced. So, not sure if they're everywhere already. Nor does just being there make them an expert. So, often it's a numbers again (if enough people are blogging/ speaking out/ citizen journalism) vs. a need for professional investigave journalism. <br><br>They can complement each other. Unfortunately I don't hear about anyone blogging right now from Kenya, Darfur. One in Burma got arrested / silenced. So, not sure if they're everywhere already. Nor does just being there make them an expert. So, often it's a numbers again (if enough people are blogging/ speaking out/ citizen journalism) vs. a need for professional investigave journalism.

They can complement each other.

]]> By: mathewi http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/02/02/new-york-times-vs-blogs-wrong-question/#comment-341274 mathewi Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:01:01 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/02/02/new-york-times-vs-blogs-wrong-question/#comment-341274 Dave, I'm not on a crusade -- and I actually don't think you're wrong.<br> In fact, I agree that a world without the Times would be less<br>interesting, and that if we get more information flowing we all win.<br>I just thought the idea of the bet was wrong -- but I'm not holding<br>you responsible for that. Dave, I'm not on a crusade — and I actually don't think you're wrong.
In fact, I agree that a world without the Times would be less
interesting, and that if we get more information flowing we all win.
I just thought the idea of the bet was wrong — but I'm not holding
you responsible for that.

]]> By: dave http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/02/02/new-york-times-vs-blogs-wrong-question/#comment-341273 dave Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:59:04 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/02/02/new-york-times-vs-blogs-wrong-question/#comment-341273 Big pubs may put journalists on planes, but bloggers are already there. <br><br>Further, the experts can publish on their own, without waiting for a reporter to ask a question.<br><br>I've said many times what Mathew says in this post, that it's not us vs them. I'm a lifelong reader of the NY Times and would like to see them continue their work, I don't like the idea of a world without the Times.<br><br>Further, if we get more information flowing between people then we all win. That's the goal, not for any one form of information flow to "win."<br><br>Don't read too much importance into this bet. <br><br>I'm a news junkie and a First Amendment zealot. That's my major allegiance.<br><br>And Mathew, I wish you'd give up your crusade to prove that I'm wrong. If you kept your mind open you might be surprised to find how much we agree. Big pubs may put journalists on planes, but bloggers are already there.

Further, the experts can publish on their own, without waiting for a reporter to ask a question.

I've said many times what Mathew says in this post, that it's not us vs them. I'm a lifelong reader of the NY Times and would like to see them continue their work, I don't like the idea of a world without the Times.

Further, if we get more information flowing between people then we all win. That's the goal, not for any one form of information flow to “win.”

Don't read too much importance into this bet.

I'm a news junkie and a First Amendment zealot. That's my major allegiance.

And Mathew, I wish you'd give up your crusade to prove that I'm wrong. If you kept your mind open you might be surprised to find how much we agree.

]]> By: Mark Dykeman http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/02/02/new-york-times-vs-blogs-wrong-question/#comment-341278 Mark Dykeman Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:55:18 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/02/02/new-york-times-vs-blogs-wrong-question/#comment-341278 Mainstream media, blogs, and social news/social bookmarking (or any other user generated content) are co-dependent. Mainstream media, blogs, and social news/social bookmarking (or any other user generated content) are co-dependent.

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