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	<title>Comments on: Fred is right and Rupert is wrong</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mathewi</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/24/fred-is-right-and-rupert-is-wrong/#comment-342820</link>
		<dc:creator>mathewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Harold.  I have considered the numbers (although I&lt;br&gt;didn&#39;t mention them in this particular post).  I think CPM rates for&lt;br&gt;high-value content like that produced by the WSJ will inevitably increase,&lt;br&gt;but that&#39;s not why I think they should do it.  I think that the value they&lt;br&gt;will get out of all of their properties -- including the print version --&lt;br&gt;will be enhanced by making their content more a part of the broader&lt;br&gt;conversation.  Obviously I don&#39;t have any numbers to prove that, but&lt;br&gt;nevertheless I believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Harold.  I have considered the numbers (although I<br />didn&#39;t mention them in this particular post).  I think CPM rates for<br />high-value content like that produced by the WSJ will inevitably increase,<br />but that&#39;s not why I think they should do it.  I think that the value they<br />will get out of all of their properties &#8212; including the print version &#8211;<br />will be enhanced by making their content more a part of the broader<br />conversation.  Obviously I don&#39;t have any numbers to prove that, but<br />nevertheless I believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/24/fred-is-right-and-rupert-is-wrong/#comment-342819</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#39;t understand why either your or Fred make these pronouncements without actually considering any numbers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In order to replicate their subscription income, &lt;a href="http://WSJ.com"&gt;WSJ.com&lt;/a&gt; needs roughly 10x more traffic, and that&#39;s assuming today&#39;s high CPM rates and that they would get close to selling our their inventory. Do you really believe it&#39;s possible for &lt;a href="http://WSJ.com"&gt;WSJ.com&lt;/a&gt; to hit 50m monthly uniques? Not unless they totally dilute their content by covering stuff that&#39;s irrelevant to their core audience.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I wrote on Fred&#39;s site, &lt;a href="http://WSJ.com"&gt;WSJ.com&lt;/a&gt; can be just as much a part of the conversation by adding blogs and other inexpensive free content and still maintain a lucrative subscription option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t understand why either your or Fred make these pronouncements without actually considering any numbers.</p>
<p>In order to replicate their subscription income, <a href="http://WSJ.com">WSJ.com</a> needs roughly 10x more traffic, and that&#39;s assuming today&#39;s high CPM rates and that they would get close to selling our their inventory. Do you really believe it&#39;s possible for <a href="http://WSJ.com">WSJ.com</a> to hit 50m monthly uniques? Not unless they totally dilute their content by covering stuff that&#39;s irrelevant to their core audience.</p>
<p>As I wrote on Fred&#39;s site, <a href="http://WSJ.com">WSJ.com</a> can be just as much a part of the conversation by adding blogs and other inexpensive free content and still maintain a lucrative subscription option.</p>
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		<title>By: antje wilsch</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/24/fred-is-right-and-rupert-is-wrong/#comment-342818</link>
		<dc:creator>antje wilsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blogging in general to me still seems like passive "journalism" and much more opinionated and reactive towards news than traditional journalism. I don&#39;t see bloggers jumping on planes to Afghanistan or Kenya (or even the front door of Heath Ledger&#39;s apartment building for that awful matter) to report on news. They let journalists dig, do research, and come up with stories, and then react to them. Blogging has a definite, and positive role to fill in the "new media" era but I don&#39;t seem bloggers who sit in front of their screens being fed data and blogging on it replacing paid journalists any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogging in general to me still seems like passive &#8220;journalism&#8221; and much more opinionated and reactive towards news than traditional journalism. I don&#39;t see bloggers jumping on planes to Afghanistan or Kenya (or even the front door of Heath Ledger&#39;s apartment building for that awful matter) to report on news. They let journalists dig, do research, and come up with stories, and then react to them. Blogging has a definite, and positive role to fill in the &#8220;new media&#8221; era but I don&#39;t seem bloggers who sit in front of their screens being fed data and blogging on it replacing paid journalists any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: mathewi</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/24/fred-is-right-and-rupert-is-wrong/#comment-342817</link>
		<dc:creator>mathewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Dave -- relax.  There was a misunderstanding -- and not just by me, but&lt;br&gt;lots of other people too.  You want to talk about professional journalists?&lt;br&gt;Talk about the way that WSJ headline and story were written.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, everyone understands each other now -- no harm done.  Welcome to the&lt;br&gt;Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Dave &#8212; relax.  There was a misunderstanding &#8212; and not just by me, but<br />lots of other people too.  You want to talk about professional journalists?<br />Talk about the way that WSJ headline and story were written.</p>
<p>Anyway, everyone understands each other now &#8212; no harm done.  Welcome to the<br />Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ingram</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/24/fred-is-right-and-rupert-is-wrong/#comment-342816</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Ingram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops I did it again! Got the story wrong. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of the 7 habits of highly effective people is: "seek to understand before being understood"  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You and so many other bloggers are so desperate to make it first with a story on to Techmeme you often forget to check your facts and your supposed to be a professional journalist!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops I did it again! Got the story wrong. </p>
<p>One of the 7 habits of highly effective people is: &#8220;seek to understand before being understood&#8221;  </p>
<p>You and so many other bloggers are so desperate to make it first with a story on to Techmeme you often forget to check your facts and your supposed to be a professional journalist!?</p>
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