Comments on: CNET on music: Right advice, wrong lessons http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/18/cnet-on-music-right-advice-wrong-lessons/ ... at the intersection of media, technology, business and the web Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:23:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: ianbetteridge http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/18/cnet-on-music-right-advice-wrong-lessons/#comment-340793 ianbetteridge Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:01:50 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/18/cnet-on-music-right-advice-wrong-lessons/#comment-340793 "Hookers and coke"? Surely you mean "flowers and candles" ;) “Hookers and coke”? Surely you mean “flowers and candles” ;)

]]> By: Mark Forman http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/18/cnet-on-music-right-advice-wrong-lessons/#comment-340797 Mark Forman Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:48:33 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/18/cnet-on-music-right-advice-wrong-lessons/#comment-340797 Interesting post and I agree with most of it. Many different models being talked about but none of them being pursued yet with a vengeance. The record industry re-grouping,pfft! yeah, nothing is impossible but I'd say better chance of a pure marketing company to fill that void in that way.<br><br>Radiohead and Trent neither are saints and yeah I think Trent is the Net savvier of the two. In RH's case I think they were just throwing crap against the wall and see what would stick more than trying to be revolutionary. What they probably didn't expect was they'd do better with web pirates and tight-wads(I know being redundant here) coughing up some money which when aggregated will probably pile up higher than cd release. besides who wants stupid cd now that it's not fresh anymore and it's all been jacked into people's IPods for months.<br><br>Trent-no dummy but not a businessman either. The rock star model is dead. These people are an anomaly from previous scarcity proprietary walled model. Not gonna see many of them in a few more years so enjoy it while you can.<br><br>See also recent posts by Mark Cuban on some ideas and also Lefsetz on RH's true colors. Interesting post and I agree with most of it. Many different models being talked about but none of them being pursued yet with a vengeance. The record industry re-grouping,pfft! yeah, nothing is impossible but I'd say better chance of a pure marketing company to fill that void in that way.

Radiohead and Trent neither are saints and yeah I think Trent is the Net savvier of the two. In RH's case I think they were just throwing crap against the wall and see what would stick more than trying to be revolutionary. What they probably didn't expect was they'd do better with web pirates and tight-wads(I know being redundant here) coughing up some money which when aggregated will probably pile up higher than cd release. besides who wants stupid cd now that it's not fresh anymore and it's all been jacked into people's IPods for months.

Trent-no dummy but not a businessman either. The rock star model is dead. These people are an anomaly from previous scarcity proprietary walled model. Not gonna see many of them in a few more years so enjoy it while you can.

See also recent posts by Mark Cuban on some ideas and also Lefsetz on RH's true colors.

]]> By: maths http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/18/cnet-on-music-right-advice-wrong-lessons/#comment-340796 maths Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:46:20 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/18/cnet-on-music-right-advice-wrong-lessons/#comment-340796 Matt, agree with you here. As Sandoval has conceded that labels only manage to achieve profitably with roughly 5% or less of their roster, surely something is wrong with the way they manage the rest of it? And this is a business model that we should be aspiring to?<br>It's time that labels are more discerning in what they want to achieve in a focused manner and also in terms of marketing, be more focused on niches and the Long Tail instead of a scattergun approach Matt, agree with you here. As Sandoval has conceded that labels only manage to achieve profitably with roughly 5% or less of their roster, surely something is wrong with the way they manage the rest of it? And this is a business model that we should be aspiring to?
It's time that labels are more discerning in what they want to achieve in a focused manner and also in terms of marketing, be more focused on niches and the Long Tail instead of a scattergun approach

]]> By: mathewi http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/18/cnet-on-music-right-advice-wrong-lessons/#comment-340795 mathewi Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:35:02 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/18/cnet-on-music-right-advice-wrong-lessons/#comment-340795 Sorry, Tom -- I'll try and knock it off :-)<br><br>No need to apologize for the link -- that's a good post. Sorry, Tom — I'll try and knock it off :-)

No need to apologize for the link — that's a good post.

]]> By: mathewi http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/18/cnet-on-music-right-advice-wrong-lessons/#comment-340792 mathewi Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:34:02 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/01/18/cnet-on-music-right-advice-wrong-lessons/#comment-340792 That's an interesting idea, Ian -- I must have missed that comment. I<br>think that approach actually might have a lot of potential. Then the<br>record company becomes a kind of service provider, rather than the<br>be-all-and-do-all provider of everything from marketing to hookers and<br>coke. That could be a very interesting model. That's an interesting idea, Ian — I must have missed that comment. I
think that approach actually might have a lot of potential. Then the
record company becomes a kind of service provider, rather than the
be-all-and-do-all provider of everything from marketing to hookers and
coke. That could be a very interesting model.

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