Comments on: Drop that compact disc, music thief http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/12/29/drop-that-compact-disc-music-thief/ ... at the intersection of media, technology, business and the web Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:58:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: The RIAA: Possibly right, still weasels - - mathewingram.com/work http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/12/29/drop-that-compact-disc-music-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-336452 The RIAA: Possibly right, still weasels - - mathewingram.com/work Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:00:57 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/12/29/drop-that-compact-disc-music-thief/#comment-336452 [...] that copying of any kind was illegal. Naturally, that got everyone up in arms — including yours truly. Shelley Powers posted a comment accusing me of getting it wrong, and noting that the actual brief [...] [...] that copying of any kind was illegal. Naturally, that got everyone up in arms — including yours truly. Shelley Powers posted a comment accusing me of getting it wrong, and noting that the actual brief [...]

]]> By: mathewi http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/12/29/drop-that-compact-disc-music-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-374494 mathewi Sun, 30 Dec 2007 08:10:02 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/12/29/drop-that-compact-disc-music-thief/#comment-374494 Shelley, no one is tarring or demonizing anyone. I think there is<br>enough wiggle room in the RIAA's phrasing to allow the industry to<br>argue that copying of any kind amounts to copyright infringement, and<br>if you took the time to look at some of the commentary and filings<br>made in the DMCA review I referred to I think you would agree -- the<br>industry's joint reply to Congress specifically says that just because<br>they haven't pursued any action based on copying a legally acquired<br>CD, that doesn't mean it qualifies as a non-infringing use. Shelley, no one is tarring or demonizing anyone. I think there is
enough wiggle room in the RIAA's phrasing to allow the industry to
argue that copying of any kind amounts to copyright infringement, and
if you took the time to look at some of the commentary and filings
made in the DMCA review I referred to I think you would agree — the
industry's joint reply to Congress specifically says that just because
they haven't pursued any action based on copying a legally acquired
CD, that doesn't mean it qualifies as a non-infringing use.

]]> By: Shelley http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/12/29/drop-that-compact-disc-music-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-374493 Shelley Sun, 30 Dec 2007 08:01:36 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/12/29/drop-that-compact-disc-music-thief/#comment-374493 Guys, the brief spent five pages defining what shared meant in this case -- KaZaA shared folders, meant to have files publicly accessible for files to be copied across the internet.<br><br>They didn't define 'shared' to be your little home network, where files from one Mac can be accessed by your PC or whatever. The brief talks about shared, in this case to mean a version of public distribution. <br><br>Why must we go to such extraordinary means to overly vilify that which we don't agree with?<br><br>The RIAA can't be 'bad' -- it must be indulging in the ultimate of infamies...the lawyers will appear at our windows late one night, with police ready to take us away.<br><br>Or must I remind you both of the risk of believing everything you read. Something about this is familiar.<br><br>Thanks for the space to comment Mathew, but if I continue I'll just be branded a troll. <br><br>Happy tarring. Guys, the brief spent five pages defining what shared meant in this case — KaZaA shared folders, meant to have files publicly accessible for files to be copied across the internet.

They didn't define 'shared' to be your little home network, where files from one Mac can be accessed by your PC or whatever. The brief talks about shared, in this case to mean a version of public distribution.

Why must we go to such extraordinary means to overly vilify that which we don't agree with?

The RIAA can't be 'bad' — it must be indulging in the ultimate of infamies…the lawyers will appear at our windows late one night, with police ready to take us away.

Or must I remind you both of the risk of believing everything you read. Something about this is familiar.

Thanks for the space to comment Mathew, but if I continue I'll just be branded a troll.

Happy tarring.

]]> By: odd time signatures » Blog Archive » Rip Your CDs; Go to Jail? Or Bankruptcy Court. http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/12/29/drop-that-compact-disc-music-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-336403 odd time signatures » Blog Archive » Rip Your CDs; Go to Jail? Or Bankruptcy Court. Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:56:40 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/12/29/drop-that-compact-disc-music-thief/#comment-336403 [...] Hodson wonders if 2008 will be the RIAA’s death knell.  I sure hope so.  Mathew Ingram points out that this argument is an exact reversal of the argument they made before the Supreme [...] [...] Hodson wonders if 2008 will be the RIAA’s death knell.  I sure hope so.  Mathew Ingram points out that this argument is an exact reversal of the argument they made before the Supreme [...]

]]> By: mathewi http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/12/29/drop-that-compact-disc-music-thief/comment-page-1/#comment-374492 mathewi Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:27:02 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/12/29/drop-that-compact-disc-music-thief/#comment-374492 I agree with your interpretation, Karoli -- it's obvious that the RIAA<br>believes simply copying them and putting them in a shared folder is a<br>copyright offence, or they wouldn't have used the word "moreover." I agree with your interpretation, Karoli — it's obvious that the RIAA
believes simply copying them and putting them in a shared folder is a
copyright offence, or they wouldn't have used the word “moreover.”

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