Comments on: Showdown: Facebook versus the Internet http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/06/18/showdown-facebook-versus-the-internet/ ... at the intersection of media, technology, business and the web Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:33:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Rob Hyndman http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/06/18/showdown-facebook-versus-the-internet/#comment-273974 Rob Hyndman Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:11:10 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/06/18/showdown-facebook-versus-the-internet/#comment-273974 I saw that post by Paul - good point - but I think it begs the real question, which is not what the value of the Facebook audience is to the platform developers, but what is the value to Facebook? Paul's argument is that this is a here-today, gone-tomorrow crowd. Well, where will they be when the next new new thing comes along? Just how flighty is the audience? I've made this point tiresomely often with respect to Digg. Frankly, I think the jury's still very much out on this question, in much of the social media world. I saw that post by Paul - good point - but I think it begs the real question, which is not what the value of the Facebook audience is to the platform developers, but what is the value to Facebook? Paul’s argument is that this is a here-today, gone-tomorrow crowd. Well, where will they be when the next new new thing comes along? Just how flighty is the audience? I’ve made this point tiresomely often with respect to Digg. Frankly, I think the jury’s still very much out on this question, in much of the social media world.

]]> By: RyanRFD http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/06/18/showdown-facebook-versus-the-internet/#comment-273858 RyanRFD Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:05:09 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/06/18/showdown-facebook-versus-the-internet/#comment-273858 Joseph, OpenID has that potential, but there are a lot of roadblocks in it's way currently. Joseph,

OpenID has that potential, but there are a lot of roadblocks in it’s way currently.

]]> By: Joseph Thornley http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/06/18/showdown-facebook-versus-the-internet/#comment-273821 Joseph Thornley Tue, 19 Jun 2007 02:43:40 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/06/18/showdown-facebook-versus-the-internet/#comment-273821 Mathew, As I try to understand the relationship between Facebook and blogging, I come to the realization that SIMPLICITY is the operational factor. Blogging made authorship simple. Facebook makes connecting with friends simple. They complement one another - until the next great development: the open platform that brings the ease of associating with the people you want to OUTSIDE of the closed community. Just like Compuserve a generation ago... Mathew,
As I try to understand the relationship between Facebook and blogging, I come to the realization that SIMPLICITY is the operational factor.

Blogging made authorship simple.

Facebook makes connecting with friends simple.

They complement one another - until the next great development: the open platform that brings the ease of associating with the people you want to OUTSIDE of the closed community.

Just like Compuserve a generation ago…

]]> By: RyanRFD http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/06/18/showdown-facebook-versus-the-internet/#comment-273802 RyanRFD Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:34:00 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/06/18/showdown-facebook-versus-the-internet/#comment-273802 The interesting thing about Facebook is that it has added a layer of permanent personal identity to the Internet by forcing users to use their real identity. More impressively, they've created an environment where people are comfortable doing this. Now that they've opened up the F8 platform developers have access to a ready made collection of user identities and relationships unlike anything that has really existed before. So far we haven't seen anyone do anything really interesting with this identity layer, but it's only been a month. MOST people don't want to create and maintain a blog, but with Facebook they are getting many of the benefits that have a centralized identity allow with the added privacy that the 'walled garden' provides. As Esther Dyson says in the article you linked to, we are creating our own walled gardens. The interesting thing about Facebook is that it has added a layer of permanent personal identity to the Internet by forcing users to use their real identity. More impressively, they’ve created an environment where people are comfortable doing this.

Now that they’ve opened up the F8 platform developers have access to a ready made collection of user identities and relationships unlike anything that has really existed before. So far we haven’t seen anyone do anything really interesting with this identity layer, but it’s only been a month.

MOST people don’t want to create and maintain a blog, but with Facebook they are getting many of the benefits that have a centralized identity allow with the added privacy that the ‘walled garden’ provides. As Esther Dyson says in the article you linked to, we are creating our own walled gardens.

]]> By: heri http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/06/18/showdown-facebook-versus-the-internet/#comment-273793 heri Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:20:06 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/06/18/showdown-facebook-versus-the-internet/#comment-273793 i am somehow irritated by facebook's mail messages. but actually, i found out it's a design choice, possibly made by the facebook founders from launch. by forcing you to go there, you actually find yourself checking your news feed and then see your friends profile or whatever new app they have. you can see by the way that they make it easy for you to leave a message, they don't nag you with repeat screens and messages, no there is a nice ajax box which will instantly send the notification to your friend ... then the circle begins again. i am somehow irritated by facebook’s mail messages. but actually, i found out it’s a design choice, possibly made by the facebook founders from launch. by forcing you to go there, you actually find yourself checking your news feed and then see your friends profile or whatever new app they have. you can see by the way that they make it easy for you to leave a message, they don’t nag you with repeat screens and messages, no there is a nice ajax box which will instantly send the notification to your friend … then the circle begins again.

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