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	<title>Comments on: One truce aside, the IM war continues</title>
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		<title>By: tmcghghfq</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/07/13/one-truce-aside-the-im-war-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-23827</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mathew Ingram</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/07/13/one-truce-aside-the-im-war-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-22182</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew Ingram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, Stu -- why all the negative vibes, dude?   You&#039;re totally bumming me out, man.  Seriously though, not sure why you decided to unload on me, but whatever.  If you&#039;re happy with MSN and Yahoo interoperating, good for you -- knock yourself out.  For me, Trillian and Meebo have let me talk to friends on MSN and Yahoo for years now, so I guess that&#039;s why I&#039;m so unexcited.  

As for the &quot;limited experience,&quot; they offer compared with MSN, I guess all those ads and offers and IM chat icons and &quot;nudges&quot; and eye-candy crap is tough to live without., eh?  Oh, and thanks for at least skimming a few recent posts to give yourself a bit more ammo to diss me with.  Rock on, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, Stu &#8212; why all the negative vibes, dude?   You&#8217;re totally bumming me out, man.  Seriously though, not sure why you decided to unload on me, but whatever.  If you&#8217;re happy with MSN and Yahoo interoperating, good for you &#8212; knock yourself out.  For me, Trillian and Meebo have let me talk to friends on MSN and Yahoo for years now, so I guess that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m so unexcited.  </p>
<p>As for the &#8220;limited experience,&#8221; they offer compared with MSN, I guess all those ads and offers and IM chat icons and &#8220;nudges&#8221; and eye-candy crap is tough to live without., eh?  Oh, and thanks for at least skimming a few recent posts to give yourself a bit more ammo to diss me with.  Rock on, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, get over yourself, nobody ever demanded that you congratulate them for it. But for people who actually use the services -- give or take a couple hundred million people -- it&#039;s a very nice thing, especially since it was implemented better than I was expecting. I&#039;m not fond of the limited experience you get with the Trilians and Meebos (or that hardly anybody uses Gtalk, which most definitely doesn&#039;t let me interoperate with everyone. Jabber? Please.), not to mention having to create an account for every system I want to interoperate with. Now I only need a single account total to use both MSN/Live and Yahoo networks.

And the reason why some people are actually excited about it today, even though it was announced months ago is...wait for it...BECAUSE IT&#039;S ACTUALLY WORKING NOW. I realize this might come as a shocker to those who care about Gdrive rumors, Rocketbimbo gossip, and MySpace vs. Yahoo more than they care about actually *getting things done* with any of the products endlessly talked about in the Web 2.0 Hyposphere.

Seriously, I can see you saying &quot;Wake me up when it happens&quot; when they originally announced it. But now that people are finally getting a chance to make use of it, it seems pretty silly for you to not understand why people would be making a big deal about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, get over yourself, nobody ever demanded that you congratulate them for it. But for people who actually use the services &#8212; give or take a couple hundred million people &#8212; it&#8217;s a very nice thing, especially since it was implemented better than I was expecting. I&#8217;m not fond of the limited experience you get with the Trilians and Meebos (or that hardly anybody uses Gtalk, which most definitely doesn&#8217;t let me interoperate with everyone. Jabber? Please.), not to mention having to create an account for every system I want to interoperate with. Now I only need a single account total to use both MSN/Live and Yahoo networks.</p>
<p>And the reason why some people are actually excited about it today, even though it was announced months ago is&#8230;wait for it&#8230;BECAUSE IT&#8217;S ACTUALLY WORKING NOW. I realize this might come as a shocker to those who care about Gdrive rumors, Rocketbimbo gossip, and MySpace vs. Yahoo more than they care about actually *getting things done* with any of the products endlessly talked about in the Web 2.0 Hyposphere.</p>
<p>Seriously, I can see you saying &#8220;Wake me up when it happens&#8221; when they originally announced it. But now that people are finally getting a chance to make use of it, it seems pretty silly for you to not understand why people would be making a big deal about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Thought Flickr's</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thought Flickr's</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;Matt said the right thing ; &quot; GTalk already works with open-source instant messaging apps such as the Jabber client. Why donâ€™t Yahoo and Microsoft support open-source too? Because they likely see that as helping Google, or diluting whatever strengths they feel they have as a&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: VoIP Watch</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/07/13/one-truce-aside-the-im-war-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-22721</link>
		<dc:creator>VoIP Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;  Presence, VoIP, IM are all interrelated. Mathew Ingramshares his take with us on the MSN &amp; Yahoo hook up.  When you add in the Yahoo Plug In effort, but realize that VoIP plug ins right now are a no-go, no-no (I say for now), one has to question how a companies trying to productize federation will make it with the&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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