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	<title>Comments on: The O&#8217;Reilly Web 2.0 debacle continues</title>
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		<title>By: JasonKolb.com: Social Networks</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/05/27/the-oreilly-web-20-debacle-continues/#comment-91290</link>
		<dc:creator>JasonKolb.com: Social Networks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] I'm going to call it Web 3.0 just for the sake of talking about this concept more efficiently.&#160; I had originally titled this post &#34;Web 3.0&#34;, until I took a look at Tech.Meme and saw the firestorm around O'Reilly trademarking the &#34;Web 2.0&#34; term.&#160; What a mess, they are going to lose a ton of credibility over this.&#160; What's the point, are they really hurting so bad for money that they have to resort to trademark squatting?&#160; Do we really need more bottom-feeding lawsuits on the Internet?&#160; Do we really need a bazillion MORE pointless blog posts debating this term that's already been beaten to death like a rented mule?&#160; Shame on you O'Reilly, you just made me waste 2 minutes of my time ranting about this and re-titling my post.&#160; I wonder how much of the world's collective time this idiocy will waste in total.&#160; Anyway, I digress. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] I&#8217;m going to call it Web 3.0 just for the sake of talking about this concept more efficiently.&nbsp; I had originally titled this post &quot;Web 3.0&quot;, until I took a look at Tech.Meme and saw the firestorm around O&#8217;Reilly trademarking the &quot;Web 2.0&quot; term.&nbsp; What a mess, they are going to lose a ton of credibility over this.&nbsp; What&#8217;s the point, are they really hurting so bad for money that they have to resort to trademark squatting?&nbsp; Do we really need more bottom-feeding lawsuits on the Internet?&nbsp; Do we really need a bazillion MORE pointless blog posts debating this term that&#8217;s already been beaten to death like a rented mule?&nbsp; Shame on you O&#8217;Reilly, you just made me waste 2 minutes of my time ranting about this and re-titling my post.&nbsp; I wonder how much of the world&#8217;s collective time this idiocy will waste in total.&nbsp; Anyway, I digress. [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: craigbellamy.net &#187; Tim O’Reilly handles it well</title>
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		<dc:creator>craigbellamy.net &#187; Tim O’Reilly handles it well</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 04:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tim O&#8217;Reilly handles it well &#8212; almost &#187; mathewingram.com/work I hope Tim O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s houseboating trip on Lake Powell was relaxing, because he came back to a boatload of stress as a result of his company&#8217;s association with a &#8220;cease and desist&#8221; letter that CMP Media sent to a (non-profit) IT group in Ireland for using the term Web 2.0 in relation to a conference. There&#8217;s more on the history of it all here if you&#8217;re interested. Tim has now posted a long dissertation on what happened and what he thinks of both the Web 2.0 trademark (which wasn&#8217;t his idea) and the blogosphere&#8217;s &#8220;pile-on&#8221; response. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tim O&rsquo;Reilly handles it well &mdash; almost &raquo; <a href="http://mathewingram.com/work" title="http://mathewingram.com/work" target="_blank">mathewingram.com/work</a> I hope Tim O&rsquo;Reilly&rsquo;s houseboating trip on Lake Powell was relaxing, because he came back to a boatload of stress as a result of his company&rsquo;s association with a &ldquo;cease and desist&rdquo; letter that CMP Media sent to a (non-profit) IT group in Ireland for using the term Web 2.0 in relation to a conference. There&rsquo;s more on the history of it all here if you&rsquo;re interested. Tim has now posted a long dissertation on what happened and what he thinks of both the Web 2.0 trademark (which wasn&rsquo;t his idea) and the blogosphere&rsquo;s &ldquo;pile-on&rdquo; response. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim O&#8217;Reilly handles it well &#8212; almost &#187; mathewingram.com/work</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim O&#8217;Reilly handles it well &#8212; almost &#187; mathewingram.com/work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 02:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The O'Reilly Web 2.0 debacle continues [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why BarCamp is a Community Mark at FactoryCity</title>
		<link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/05/27/the-oreilly-web-20-debacle-continues/#comment-10655</link>
		<dc:creator>Why BarCamp is a Community Mark at FactoryCity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 02:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Community Mark was a prediction of the kind of ongoing community tarring happening to O&#8217;Reilly. This is, after all, what happens when you try to take away the language or symbols by which a community identifies itself and serves as a warning for what could happen to Mozilla if they stepped up and stopped community projects from cropping up. Or what would happen if anyone tries to trademark BarCamp or use it for purposes that the community does not sanction or endorse. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Community Mark was a prediction of the kind of ongoing community tarring happening to O&#8217;Reilly. This is, after all, what happens when you try to take away the language or symbols by which a community identifies itself and serves as a warning for what could happen to Mozilla if they stepped up and stopped community projects from cropping up. Or what would happen if anyone tries to trademark BarCamp or use it for purposes that the community does not sanction or endorse. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Advanced Technology Products Interactive &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Web 2.0 should be a community mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Advanced Technology Products Interactive &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Web 2.0 should be a community mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 09:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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