Comments on: Dave’s dark side returns to the forefront http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/03/15/daves-dark-side-returns-to-the-forefront/ ... at the intersection of media, technology, business and the web Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:41:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Rogers Cadenhead cuts a deal with Dave » mathewingram.com/work http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/03/15/daves-dark-side-returns-to-the-forefront/comment-page-1/#comment-2643 Rogers Cadenhead cuts a deal with Dave » mathewingram.com/work Wed, 03 May 2006 21:33:54 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/03/15/daves-dark-side-returns-to-the-forefront/#comment-2643 [...] I wasn’t going to write anything about the latest development in the Dave Winer and Rogers Cadenhead saga, because I’ve probably wasted enough electrons already on that topic a few times in the past, but I couldn’t resist after reading a post Rogers did on the legal settlement that he and Dave managed to hash out after Dave sued him. [...] [...] I wasn’t going to write anything about the latest development in the Dave Winer and Rogers Cadenhead saga, because I’ve probably wasted enough electrons already on that topic a few times in the past, but I couldn’t resist after reading a post Rogers did on the legal settlement that he and Dave managed to hash out after Dave sued him. [...]

]]> By: aablog http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/03/15/daves-dark-side-returns-to-the-forefront/comment-page-1/#comment-696 aablog Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:35:48 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/03/15/daves-dark-side-returns-to-the-forefront/#comment-696 I don’t know either of these guys personally, but I do e-joy reading their posts now and then. I especially like the DaveNet archives. Get into any topical discussion out here in the wild, something strikes a chord and bam, the e-pinions hit the fan. I dont' think Rogers should have posted the attorney's letter. I do not think for a moment that Dave is above distortion by his virtual self. When the chord resonates, the virtual self can emotionally flog the keyboard and at that moment none of us is above distortion - that includes Rogers and the rest of us. It comes down to a matter of perception I think. I try to be fair, AND I ‘viturally’ do not perceive Dave to be as bad as his detractors do. I ‘virtually’ do not perceive Rogers to be as pure of heart as his supporters do. Virtually it is interesting. Personally does it really matter? Not much. Two important words here, communication and trust. Another two words - money and power often get in their way. I don’t know either of these guys personally, but I do e-joy reading their posts now and then. I especially like the DaveNet archives.

Get into any topical discussion out here in the wild, something strikes a chord and bam, the e-pinions hit the fan.
I dont’ think Rogers should have posted the attorney’s letter. I do not think for a moment that Dave is above distortion by his virtual self.

When the chord resonates, the virtual self can emotionally flog the keyboard and at that moment none of us is above distortion – that includes Rogers and the rest of us.

It comes down to a matter of perception I think. I try to be fair, AND I ‘viturally’ do not perceive Dave to be as bad as his detractors do. I ‘virtually’ do not perceive Rogers to be as pure of heart as his supporters do.

Virtually it is interesting. Personally does it really matter? Not much.

Two important words here, communication and trust. Another two words – money and power often get in their way.

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/03/15/daves-dark-side-returns-to-the-forefront/comment-page-1/#comment-695 Dennis Howlett Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:32:14 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/03/15/daves-dark-side-returns-to-the-forefront/#comment-695 Airing dirty laundry, especially with a lawyer's tag, in the court of public opnion is a recipe for disaster. And the lawyers usually win. Airing dirty laundry, especially with a lawyer’s tag, in the court of public opnion is a recipe for disaster. And the lawyers usually win.

]]> By: Seth Finkelstein http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/03/15/daves-dark-side-returns-to-the-forefront/comment-page-1/#comment-694 Seth Finkelstein Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:46:51 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/03/15/daves-dark-side-returns-to-the-forefront/#comment-694 ",,, the RSS debacle, which gets weirder by the day ..." Weirdness tends to follow the money :-) Paul: I think you're improperly implying a moral equivalence. Here's a simple point: Dave had the option of saying "My lawyer was too aggressive, I apologize and withdraw any threat of litigation." He didn't. Or anything close to it. That's just one profound asymmetry (that the target had been derided as a "lackey" and "sycophant" is to me another telling point as to why we are dealing with abuse and not equals). “,,, the RSS debacle, which gets weirder by the day …”

Weirdness tends to follow the money :-)

Paul: I think you’re improperly implying a moral equivalence. Here’s a simple point: Dave had the option of saying “My lawyer was too aggressive, I apologize and withdraw any threat of litigation.” He didn’t. Or anything close to it. That’s just one profound asymmetry (that the target had been derided as a “lackey” and “sycophant” is to me another telling point as to why we are dealing with abuse and not equals).

]]> By: Mathew http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/03/15/daves-dark-side-returns-to-the-forefront/comment-page-1/#comment-693 Mathew Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:32:57 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/03/15/daves-dark-side-returns-to-the-forefront/#comment-693 Thanks for the comment, Paul -- I realize I've given Dave's side the short end of the stick, and that was deliberate. I'm prepared to believe that Rogers isn't a saint, but given what has happened in the past involving Dave, I would say that Rogers is a heck of lot closer to sainthood than Dave is. Mathew Thanks for the comment, Paul — I realize I’ve given Dave’s side the short end of the stick, and that was deliberate. I’m prepared to believe that Rogers isn’t a saint, but given what has happened in the past involving Dave, I would say that Rogers is a heck of lot closer to sainthood than Dave is.

Mathew

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