Comments on: The RSS soap opera (updated) http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/22/the-rss-soap-opera-starring-dave-winer/ ... at the intersection of media, technology, business and the web Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:13:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Rogers Cadenhead cuts a deal with Dave » mathewingram.com/work http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/22/the-rss-soap-opera-starring-dave-winer/#comment-2642 Rogers Cadenhead cuts a deal with Dave » mathewingram.com/work Wed, 03 May 2006 21:26:50 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/02/22/the-rss-soap-opera-starring-dave-winer/#comment-2642 [...] I wasn’t going to write anything about the latest development in the Dave Winer and Rogers Cadenhead saga, because I’ve probably wasted enough electrons already on that topic a few times in the past, but I couldn’t resist after reading a post Rogers did on the legal settlement that he and Dave managed to hash out after Dave sued him. [...] [...] I wasn’t going to write anything about the latest development in the Dave Winer and Rogers Cadenhead saga, because I’ve probably wasted enough electrons already on that topic a few times in the past, but I couldn’t resist after reading a post Rogers did on the legal settlement that he and Dave managed to hash out after Dave sued him. [...]

]]> By: King Bastard http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/22/the-rss-soap-opera-starring-dave-winer/#comment-580 King Bastard Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:56:08 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/02/22/the-rss-soap-opera-starring-dave-winer/#comment-580 Typical Dave Winer stuff. Why do people keep listening to this guy when he just shits on everyone? KB --- The Dave Winer "Bastard of the Blogs" card: http://www.thosebastards.com/archives/2084/ Typical Dave Winer stuff. Why do people keep listening to this guy when he just shits on everyone?

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The Dave Winer “Bastard of the Blogs” card: http://www.thosebastards.com/archives/2084/

]]> By: Enter the Sphere » Technology overshadowed by personalities http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/22/the-rss-soap-opera-starring-dave-winer/#comment-556 Enter the Sphere » Technology overshadowed by personalities Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:11:03 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/02/22/the-rss-soap-opera-starring-dave-winer/#comment-556 [...] This is an amusing bit of writing at BurningBird. Based on this mess my conclusion is that Atom will win over time, BUT it looks like Microsoft has rescued RSS, at least for the next few years and that’s too bad. More on the “soap operaâ€? with some telling quotes from Dave Winer: BTW, some people were avoiding him at the Mashup Camp conference this week. I don’t know the man but it appears that he is loosing some stature over this debate. Maybe he should enter a RSS 12 Step program and get on with some new projects. Back to the technology.  All we really want is some clarity on the existing RSS spec so we can get on with our business. There are unanswered questions:  Are multiple enclosures allowed in a single item?  Is description the only RSS element that can carry HTML?  Are relative URLs allowed? If these guys can not perform this fundamental function then Atom should win.Accept my apology if this is too much “insideâ€? stuff. Dismiss it if you wish.  [...] [...] This is an amusing bit of writing at BurningBird. Based on this mess my conclusion is that Atom will win over time, BUT it looks like Microsoft has rescued RSS, at least for the next few years and that’s too bad. More on the “soap operaâ€? with some telling quotes from Dave Winer: BTW, some people were avoiding him at the Mashup Camp conference this week. I don’t know the man but it appears that he is loosing some stature over this debate. Maybe he should enter a RSS 12 Step program and get on with some new projects. Back to the technology.  All we really want is some clarity on the existing RSS spec so we can get on with our business. There are unanswered questions:  Are multiple enclosures allowed in a single item?  Is description the only RSS element that can carry HTML?  Are relative URLs allowed? If these guys can not perform this fundamental function then Atom should win.Accept my apology if this is too much “insideâ€? stuff. Dismiss it if you wish.  [...]

]]> By: Seth Finkelstein http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/22/the-rss-soap-opera-starring-dave-winer/#comment-527 Seth Finkelstein Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:37:39 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/02/22/the-rss-soap-opera-starring-dave-winer/#comment-527 About: <em> (are they regretting ever getting involved)</em> I hardly speak for them, but I suspect it's considered just the price of doing business - $100 MILLION OF VC BUSINESS! <a href="http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/000873.html" rel="nofollow">http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/000873.html</a> About: (are they regretting ever getting involved)

I hardly speak for them, but I suspect it’s considered just the price of doing business - $100 MILLION OF VC BUSINESS!

http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/000873.html

]]> By: Make You Go Hmm: » Days of RSS Lives http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/22/the-rss-soap-opera-starring-dave-winer/#comment-526 Make You Go Hmm: » Days of RSS Lives Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:30:19 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/02/22/the-rss-soap-opera-starring-dave-winer/#comment-526 [...] Now back to Winer’s sour grapes. Mathew Ingram does a good job of laying down the background for where the RSS soap opera begins to unfold, quoting some choice Winer comments which suggest he is less than happy with the direction of this group. Ingram writes: The sad thing is that Dave’s efforts will probably do a fair amount of damage to the advisory board, and his talking to various corporate backers of the idea might just sabotage a lot of what the group is attempting to do - which, let’s remember, is to improve the spec. Dave would rather have it frozen in amber for eternity, which is why Atom was developed - as a way of routing around Dave (as James Robertson puts it, the reason why Atom exists is demonstrated “every single time Dave speaks on the subjectâ€?). [...] [...] Now back to Winer’s sour grapes. Mathew Ingram does a good job of laying down the background for where the RSS soap opera begins to unfold, quoting some choice Winer comments which suggest he is less than happy with the direction of this group. Ingram writes: The sad thing is that Dave’s efforts will probably do a fair amount of damage to the advisory board, and his talking to various corporate backers of the idea might just sabotage a lot of what the group is attempting to do - which, let’s remember, is to improve the spec. Dave would rather have it frozen in amber for eternity, which is why Atom was developed - as a way of routing around Dave (as James Robertson puts it, the reason why Atom exists is demonstrated “every single time Dave speaks on the subjectâ€?). [...]

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