Comments on: Newspapers need to get a clue - quickly http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/01/newspapers-need-to-get-a-clue-quickly/ ... at the intersection of media, technology, business and the web Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:26:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Hey Google — stop linking to us » mathewingram.com/media http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/01/newspapers-need-to-get-a-clue-quickly/#comment-244708 Hey Google — stop linking to us » mathewingram.com/media Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:06:56 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/02/01/newspapers-need-to-get-a-clue-quickly/#comment-244708 [...] Sam has apparently decided to parrot the line taken by a Belgian copyright agency and by the World Newspaper Association, among others, who argue that Google News is “stealing” content from newspapers such as the Chicago Tribune (which Zell just acquired), and needs to be stopped. This simply isn’t true, as I have argued before, including here and here. On the contrary, newspapers get a tremendous benefit from being indexed by Google News, just as websites get a tremendous benefit from being indexed by Google’s search. [...] [...] Sam has apparently decided to parrot the line taken by a Belgian copyright agency and by the World Newspaper Association, among others, who argue that Google News is “stealing” content from newspapers such as the Chicago Tribune (which Zell just acquired), and needs to be stopped. This simply isn’t true, as I have argued before, including here and here. On the contrary, newspapers get a tremendous benefit from being indexed by Google News, just as websites get a tremendous benefit from being indexed by Google’s search. [...]

]]> By: Hey Google — stop linking to us » mathewingram.com/work http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/01/newspapers-need-to-get-a-clue-quickly/#comment-244706 Hey Google — stop linking to us » mathewingram.com/work Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:05:34 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/02/01/newspapers-need-to-get-a-clue-quickly/#comment-244706 [...] Sam has apparently decided to parrot the line taken by a Belgian copyright agency and by the World Newspaper Association, among others, who argue that Google News is “stealing” content from newspapers such as the Chicago Tribune (which Zell just acquired), and needs to be stopped. This simply isn’t true, as I have argued before, including here and here. On the contrary, newspapers get a tremendous benefit from being indexed by Google News, just as websites get a tremendous benefit from being indexed by Google’s search. [...] [...] Sam has apparently decided to parrot the line taken by a Belgian copyright agency and by the World Newspaper Association, among others, who argue that Google News is “stealing” content from newspapers such as the Chicago Tribune (which Zell just acquired), and needs to be stopped. This simply isn’t true, as I have argued before, including here and here. On the contrary, newspapers get a tremendous benefit from being indexed by Google News, just as websites get a tremendous benefit from being indexed by Google’s search. [...]

]]> By: Media is Jell-O, the Web is the wall » mathewingram.com/work http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/01/newspapers-need-to-get-a-clue-quickly/#comment-4032 Media is Jell-O, the Web is the wall » mathewingram.com/work Tue, 09 May 2006 16:46:18 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/02/01/newspapers-need-to-get-a-clue-quickly/#comment-4032 [...] As for newspapers, debate is still all over the map about how to offer content online — and I should know, because we’ve had (and are having) plenty of that kind of debate at globeandmail.com. Is the subscription model working? Does it make sense to combine that with a partial “pay wall” as the Globe does and the New York Times recently started doing — or should content be free and advertising carry the freight? Does Google actually help, or is it stealing content in some way as the European Newspaper Publishers contend (that last one is the reddest herring I’ve probably ever seen, as I’ve mentioned before). [...] [...] As for newspapers, debate is still all over the map about how to offer content online — and I should know, because we’ve had (and are having) plenty of that kind of debate at globeandmail.com. Is the subscription model working? Does it make sense to combine that with a partial “pay wall” as the Globe does and the New York Times recently started doing — or should content be free and advertising carry the freight? Does Google actually help, or is it stealing content in some way as the European Newspaper Publishers contend (that last one is the reddest herring I’ve probably ever seen, as I’ve mentioned before). [...]

]]> By: Stuart MacDonald http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/01/newspapers-need-to-get-a-clue-quickly/#comment-273 Stuart MacDonald Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:42:52 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/02/01/newspapers-need-to-get-a-clue-quickly/#comment-273 Look, I'm not saying that I've written the How To Make Money As A Newspaper In The 21st Century book (though if anybody'd like to pay me to ;-)), but CLEARLY cutting off a valuable, free sourch of reach is not part of paving the road to success. I mean, imagine if GOOG had similar services focused on aggregating content completely relevant in other categories. Many folks would be lined up to pay to be there. Oh, wait, that's paid search. -- Stuart Look, I’m not saying that I’ve written the How To Make Money As A Newspaper In The 21st Century book (though if anybody’d like to pay me to ;-)), but CLEARLY cutting off a valuable, free sourch of reach is not part of paving the road to success. I mean, imagine if GOOG had similar services focused on aggregating content completely relevant in other categories. Many folks would be lined up to pay to be there.

Oh, wait, that’s paid search.

– Stuart

]]> By: Mathew http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/01/newspapers-need-to-get-a-clue-quickly/#comment-272 Mathew Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:29:30 +0000 http://www.mathewingram.com/work/index.php/2006/02/01/newspapers-need-to-get-a-clue-quickly/#comment-272 I agree, Stuart. I don't know whether to laugh or cry, to tell you the truth. I think maybe Google should call up the WNA and say "Fine, we won't index your stuff any more. Have a nice day," and then see how long those newspaper sites lasted. It's like that moronic idea someone raised a little while back of getting magazines and all kinds of other dead media and having them create their own little walled garden so they could "compete with Google." Give your head a shake, boys. I agree, Stuart. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry, to tell you the truth. I think maybe Google should call up the WNA and say “Fine, we won’t index your stuff any more. Have a nice day,” and then see how long those newspaper sites lasted. It’s like that moronic idea someone raised a little while back of getting magazines and all kinds of other dead media and having them create their own little walled garden so they could “compete with Google.” Give your head a shake, boys.

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