Comments on: Hey, where’s your journalism licence? http://mathewingram.com/media/2007/12/15/hey-wheres-your-journalism-licence/ ...watching the intersection of the Web and media Tue, 14 Feb 2012 02:35:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger http://mathewingram.com/media/2007/12/15/hey-wheres-your-journalism-licence/#comment-12290 David "Lefty" Schlesinger Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:46:48 +0000 http://mathewingram.com/media/2007/12/15/hey-wheres-your-journalism-licence/#comment-12290 Matthew, looking back at the CES/Gizmodo imbroglio--not to suggest that this is a reasonable, or even sane, response--don't you think that folks who demand to be treated like journalists (to the point of getting themselves issued press credentials) but then refuse to adhere to even minimal standards of professional conduct feed into this sort of silliness...? People's first reaction to a bad situation is almost always way over the top. Sometimes it gets expensive or otherwise problematic: the Sarbanes-Oxley laws are a good example of this... Matthew, looking back at the CES/Gizmodo imbroglio–not to suggest that this is a reasonable, or even sane, response–don’t you think that folks who demand to be treated like journalists (to the point of getting themselves issued press credentials) but then refuse to adhere to even minimal standards of professional conduct feed into this sort of silliness…?

People’s first reaction to a bad situation is almost always way over the top. Sometimes it gets expensive or otherwise problematic: the Sarbanes-Oxley laws are a good example of this…

]]> By: Mark Jackson http://mathewingram.com/media/2007/12/15/hey-wheres-your-journalism-licence/#comment-10932 Mark Jackson Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:09:56 +0000 http://mathewingram.com/media/2007/12/15/hey-wheres-your-journalism-licence/#comment-10932 If gun owners need to be licensed, then why not journalists? When our "betters" controlled the media, they control access, and effectively licensed journalists. It's about control of those who disagree with you. Ditto for Gun licensing. When a group starts to lose control they panic and go to great links to "keep the genie in the bottle". It never works, and only creates a backlash. Ironically what used to be termed the "alternative" media really wasn't. We now have an alternative media, and the elites are unhappy about it. Good. If gun owners need to be licensed, then why not journalists? When our “betters” controlled the media, they control access, and effectively licensed journalists.

It’s about control of those who disagree with you. Ditto for Gun licensing.

When a group starts to lose control they panic and go to great links to “keep the genie in the bottle”. It never works, and only creates a backlash.

Ironically what used to be termed the “alternative” media really wasn’t. We now have an alternative media, and the elites are unhappy about it. Good.

]]> By: David Gratton http://mathewingram.com/media/2007/12/15/hey-wheres-your-journalism-licence/#comment-10720 David Gratton Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:27:52 +0000 http://mathewingram.com/media/2007/12/15/hey-wheres-your-journalism-licence/#comment-10720 This is emblematic of the biggest challenge facing publishers. They do not know how to deal with the loss of control. Yes, we need to be able discern fact from fiction or more importantly fact from opinion. Yes, we need to have filters to promote quality and well researched news and opinion over the speculative and inaccurate news. However, the solution to these challenges does not require such draconian control. There is plenty of historical and current day evidence where mandating "editorial control" has been used to control the dissemination of information rather than maintain some level of perceived quality. For "professional newsman" to advocate such a position is frightening, and actually makes me wonder where he got his Journalism License? This is emblematic of the biggest challenge facing publishers. They do not know how to deal with the loss of control.

Yes, we need to be able discern fact from fiction or more importantly fact from opinion.

Yes, we need to have filters to promote quality and well researched news and opinion over the speculative and inaccurate news.

However, the solution to these challenges does not require such draconian control. There is plenty of historical and current day evidence where mandating “editorial control” has been used to control the dissemination of information rather than maintain some level of perceived quality.

For “professional newsman” to advocate such a position is frightening, and actually makes me wonder where he got his Journalism License?

]]> By: Seth Finkelstein http://mathewingram.com/media/2007/12/15/hey-wheres-your-journalism-licence/#comment-10613 Seth Finkelstein Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:38:54 +0000 http://mathewingram.com/media/2007/12/15/hey-wheres-your-journalism-licence/#comment-10613 Bleh. Another case of, paraphrased: GET HIM! GET HIM! He didn't bow down to us and pointed out the idol of has feet of clay so *GET* *HIM*!!! This sort of knee-jerk ranting is the best proof of the points those people make. Bleh. Another case of, paraphrased: GET HIM! GET HIM! He didn’t bow down to us and pointed out the idol of has feet of clay so *GET* *HIM*!!!

This sort of knee-jerk ranting is the best proof of the points those people make.

]]> By: Rob Hyndman http://mathewingram.com/media/2007/12/15/hey-wheres-your-journalism-licence/#comment-10602 Rob Hyndman Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:33:26 +0000 http://mathewingram.com/media/2007/12/15/hey-wheres-your-journalism-licence/#comment-10602 Please, no. Dear god, please, no. Please, no. Dear god, please, no.

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